[Cantzelerïă/Chancery] October 2024 Clark - 60th Cosa

Started by Sir Txec dal Nordselvă, UrB, October 01, 2024, 05:56:40 AM

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Sir Txec dal Nordselvă, UrB

The October 2024 Clark is now here.


www.talossa.ca/files/clark.php?cosa=60&clark=3

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www.talossa.ca/files/clarks/October2024Clark.pdf

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Secretár d'Estat/Secretary of State
Sir Txec Róibeard dal Nordselvă, UrB, GST, O.SPM, SMM
El Sovind Pudatïu / The Heir Presumptive
Secretár d'Estat
Guaír del Sabor Talossan
The Squirrel Viceroy of Arms, The Rouge Elephant Herald, RTCoA
Cunstaval da Vuode

Baron Alexandreu Davinescu

As to RZ14, The Making SoS Succession Easier Act, I vote per.
As to RZ15, BHAID: Palestinian Children's Relief Act, I vote per.
As to RZ16, The Immigration Reform (Quality over Quantity), I vote non. It is a bad idea to have a Government minister render a private judgment about a subjective standard for each potential immigrant, even though it is good that the bill now requires some disclosure.

As to the Vote of Confidence, I vote contra.
Alexandreu Davinescu, Baron Davinescu del Vilatx Freiric del Vilatx Freiric es Guaír del Sabor Talossan


Bitter struggles deform their participants in subtle, complicated ways. ― Zadie Smith
Revolution is an art that I pursue rather than a goal I expect to achieve. ― Robert Heinlein

Flip Molinar

As to RZ14, The Making SoS Succession Easier Act, I vote per
As to RZ15, BHAID: Palestinian Children's Relief Act, I vote per
As to RZ16, The Immigration Reform (Quality over Quantity), I vote contra

As to the Vote of Confidence, I vote non
O.Be.

þerxh Sant-Enogat

As to RZ14, The Making SoS Succession Easier Act, I vote per
As to RZ15, BHAID: Palestinian Children's Relief Act, I abstain (austaneu), I don't disagree but I think a debate on how to allocate our charity funds would be more democratic than "who proposes first has the right to choose"
As to RZ16, The Immigration Reform (Quality over Quantity), I vote contra. >I think that all applications should be visible for discussion to the people, without a filtering based on an personnal assessment, this is too much power (and work) for a MinImm.
As to the Vote of Confidence, I vote non
þerxh Sant-Enogat, SMC, MC
Sénéchal de Cézembre,
Túischac'h dal 60:éă Cosă,
Duceu pareßel dal Aliançù Progreßïu

Bentxamì Puntmasleu

Grefieir d'Abbavilla / Scribe of Abbavilla

Ministreu dels Afaes Útphätseschti / Minister of Foreign Affairs

Zirecteir dels Afaes Înphätseschti / Director of Home Affairs

Mic’haglh Autófil, SMC EiP

RZ14: Aus

RZ15: Con - I believe the intended recipient a worthwhile place to be donating money to, but I think it makes the most sense to spend the money already allocated for foreign aid before we go allocating something else.

RZ16: Për

VoC: Üc
Minister of Technology
The Long Fellow, Royal Talossan College of Arms
Specialist, Els Zuávs da l'Altahál Rexhitál
Zirecteir Naziunal, Parti da Reformaziun

xpb

My votes regarding 60th Cosâ, Clark #3

Për on RZ14
The Making SoS Succession Easier Act

Për on RZ15
BHAID: Palestinian Children's Relief Act

Contrâ on RZ16
The Immigration Reform (Quality over Quantity) Bill

Non on Vote of Confidence


I also note instructions received by email direct voters
QuoteYou can also vote on Wittenberg on the official Clark thread in the Ziu board http://talossa.proboards.com/board/33/ziu
in error rather than this thread.

xpb

Sir Lüc

I voted through the Database as follows.

On RZ14, I vote Contră. Reading its plain language, the bill does not do what it purports to do, as is made blatant by comparing this clause in the preamble:

Quotechange the current rules so [deputies] may be allowed to succeed the SoS on his or her leaving

with this clause in the amended legislation:
Quotewith the ability to replace the Secretary should he become unavailable

and noting that unavailable does not mean the SoS has vacated his office.

This therefore would only serve to sow the seeds of a constitutional crisis if a DySoS were to decide the SoS was unavailable and act in their stead without any kind of delegation, such as the one I received to run the current referendum.

I suppose we needed confirming that people don't read what they vote in favour of.


On RZ15, I vote Contră. As I noted several times, I support the donation but vehemently disagree with this umpteenth botching of proper practice.

On RZ16, I vote Per.

On confidence, I vote Üc.
Sir Lüc da Schir, UrB MC
Finance Minister / Ministreu dals Finançuns
Deputy Secretary of State / Distain Secretar d'Estat
Deputy Scribe of Abbavilla / Distain Grefieir d'Abbavillă
Directeur Sportif, Gordon Hiatus Support Team

Sir Txec dal Nordselvă, UrB

Results of the 3rd Clark of the 60th Cosa

RZ14 Failed the Cosa 70-100-30, In the Senate 2-5-0
RZ15 Passed the Cosa 149-46-5, in the Senate 6-1-0
RZ16 Passed the Cosa 130-70-0, in the Senate 6-1-0
The VoC passed 160-40

All MCs voted. Senator Glüc da Dhi did not vote.




Secretár d'Estat/Secretary of State
Sir Txec Róibeard dal Nordselvă, UrB, GST, O.SPM, SMM
El Sovind Pudatïu / The Heir Presumptive
Secretár d'Estat
Guaír del Sabor Talossan
The Squirrel Viceroy of Arms, The Rouge Elephant Herald, RTCoA
Cunstaval da Vuode