New Secretary of State

[Miestră Schivă, UrN]

In accordance with El Lexhatx C.3.1, I humbly advise the King to appoint @Sir Lüc as Secretary of State.

[King Txec]

In accordance with El Lexhatx C.3.1, I humbly advise the King to appoint @Sir Lüc as Secretary of State.

It is with great pleasure that I appoint Sir Luc da Schir as the Secretary of State.

Best of luck Sir Luc!

- Txec R

[Breneir Tzaracomprada]

Open Society congratulates the sauve and debonair @Sir Lüc on his elevation to Secretary of State and encourages him to issue internal policy concerning the nonpartisanship of the office.

[Baron Alexandreu Davinescu]

sauve and debonair Sir Lüc

A month ago, you called Sir Luc "cute" and "handsome." Now you're calling him "suave and debonair." This isn't criminal behavior, but it is inappropriate (and creepy).

[Breneir Tzaracomprada]

and encourages him to issue internal policy concerning the nonpartisanship of the office.

Sir Luc you mentioned your plans to do this upon your taking office and the time is ripe. Besides being sauve and debonair I want to also see the Secretary of State as nonpartisan.

[Miestră Schivă, UrN]

sauve and debonair Sir Lüc

A month ago, you called Sir Luc "cute" and "handsome." Now you're calling him "suave and debonair." This isn't criminal behavior, but it is inappropriate (and creepy).

The fact that this behaviour is repeated even though its target has expressed his discomfort with it - and the fact that the perpetrator understands that discomfort, doesn't care, and just keeps going - shows that it is intended as harassment, even if it does not (yet) rise to the legal definition of that under law. Wittenberg moderators need to be authorised to stamp this stuff out.

[Baron Alexandreu Davinescu]

I do not support legal action, since I dislike the precedent set by someone having their speech suppressed for being gross and unpleasant to a member of an opposing political party.

However, the last person to act in this specific way was Iusti Canun, who would sometimes write me to tell me that he thought I was handsome. It was creepy.  As we all know, that sort of behavior didn't bode well.  I hope Breneir reconsiders this course of action upon reflection.  It's possible to make a comeback after almost anything in Talossa, but no one has ever continued in the country after openly establishing themselves as a sex pest.

Breneir, obviously you'll never just think about your behavior, realize that even "playful" sexual harassment is wrong, and apologize.  So I would encourage you to just do the same thing you did with your grudge against Txec: seize on some plausible shred of principle that's involved, and loudly pretend you were trying to make a point about that principle.  If you do a good job, it might even seem real.  Do not double down and make a big deal about how it's somehow really important that you get to say creepy shit to a young person.  He doesn't deserve that, and no one will tolerate it.

Maybe this is really about freedom of speech, for example?  You just want to be able to speak your mind without Government censorship, perhaps.

[Breneir Tzaracomprada]

:) Miestra continues to be adorable.
And, yeah, Baron, of course you are handsome.
See? Not just Luc...the late Sir Ian, Carlus and Marcel have great voices.
And I'd like to read Txec's writing so that I can compliment him too.

I am pretty free-flowing with compliments. And that is not going to change especially when none of them are inappropriate.

The fact that this behaviour is repeated even though its target has expressed his discomfort with it

When?

[Baron Alexandreu Davinescu]

"Remember, class, if the target of harassment doesn't personally make a plea for you to stop, you should ignore everyone and keep on complimenting their appearance.  Don't stop and ask yourself whether or not your behavior is welcome, or whether or not you are making others uncomfortable.  The most important thing is how you feel."

[Breneir Tzaracomprada]

"Remember, class, if the target of harassment doesn't personally make a plea for you to stop, you should ignore everyone and keep on complimenting their appearance.  Don't stop and ask yourself whether or not your behavior is welcome, or whether or not you are making others uncomfortable.  The most important thing is how you feel."

Notice no answer to the question which challenged an inaccurate assertion.
As Miestra claimed, when did Luc state that my compliments made him uncomfortable?

[King Txec]

As Miestra claimed, when did Luc state that my compliments made him uncomfortable?

Is it ever required that the target of possible harassment is required to complain for it to be harassment?

[King Txec]

Of course, I'm no longer the SoS and Witt admin, but even I can admit when there is thread drift so...

[Breneir Tzaracomprada]

As Miestra claimed, when did Luc state that my compliments made him uncomfortable?

Is it ever required that the target of possible harassment is required to complain for it to be harassment?

No but it is generally expected for people to tell the truth (and not substitute their own discomfort) if they have. Miestra stated that Luc said I made him uncomfortable which is not true.

[Miestră Schivă, UrN]

Miestra stated that Luc said I made him uncomfortable which is not true.

I beg you to consider that people sometimes say things in forums to which you're not invited. If Sir Lüc had not communicated *clearly* to me that he doesn't appreciate your remarks, I would have ignored them.

[Breneir Tzaracomprada]

Miestra stated that Luc said I made him uncomfortable which is not true.

I beg you to consider that people sometimes say things in forums to which you're not invited.

You lied and said that he made a statement of discomfort (that I knew of) and I continued to make the compliment.