FreeDems Convention July 2025

[GV]

At the request of the Party President, I declare our July 2025 Convention to be OPEN.

Party Leadership will in due course post the agenda for all the proceedings.

Thanks, all!

GV, Party Secretary

[Miestră Schivă, UrN-GC]

Grült méirci, estimat Secretár.

¡Estimadas es estimats Democrätsen Livereschti!

As Party President, I am laying a single item on the agenda for this Party Convention: the following motion.

• That this Convention of the Free Democrats of Talossa hereby endorses the formation of a new party, provisionally named l'Uniun dels Reformistaes Livereschti (URL) whose membership shall be that of the Free Democrats combined with the membership of el Partì da Reformaziun (PdR).
• That the provisional Constitution of the URL shall be as provided in this text, with the provision that this text may be amended by the first Convention of the URL.
• That upon passage of this motion, and upon passage of an equivalent motion by the PdR Convention, the Free Democrats of Talossa shall cease to exist; this convention shall be adjourned and instantly reconvene as the first Convention of the URL, with the addition of all PdR members. Miestra Schiva will be provisional chair of this Convention.
• That the first Convention of the URL, in addition to the other tasks mandated by the provisional Constitution, shall adopt a political Program for the new party.

Under Constitution article V, this will require affirmative support of two-thirds of those voting.

There is no firm deadline for this debate/vote, given that the PdR will have their schedule too and there's no point going too far in advance of them, and given that this is pretty irrevocable and I want everyone who wants to to have their say.

Once I call a vote, again under Constitution V, you will have three days / 72 hours.

Questions? Comments? Suggested amendments? Alternative motions?

[Antaglha Xhenerös Somelieir]

I would like to propose, that should the above motion fails, we hold a vote on whether or not, with the state of the party right now, we should dissolve the party under the rules of our constitution, or if we should continue.

[Miestră Schivă, UrN-GC]

@mpf would you like to introduce this proposed amendment now? Or introduce it to the merger convention? I would suggest the latter, because if we amend the provisional Constitution now, the PdR will have to make the same amendment, which may get annoying

I personally think that Senats candidates should be selected as follows, if there is more than one candidate:

50% of the vote is by members of the party within the province, and 50% of the vote is from members outside of the province.

Senators represent a province, sure, but they are also important safeguards for the Cosa.

Let's say that there are 3 members of the party in the province, and two of them are in a sort of fringe sub-branch. They propose one of them, while the party backs another.

They would get 2/3 in the province, which is 67%, but the rest of the party all vote for the other member (who has 1/3).

2/3 + 0   = 33.5% of the total vote
1/3 + 100 = 66.5% of the total vote.

The province still has a say, they are 50% of the vote, but that way, the party can make sure that the backed senate candidates trully represent the party.

[GV]

I would like to propose, that should the above motion fails, we hold a vote on whether or not, with the state of the party right now, we should dissolve the party under the rules of our constitution, or if we should continue.

100% support - GV

[Miestră Schivă, UrN-GC]

Can I ask if there is a seconder for this motion to be discussed here in this convention?

Otherwise I will suggest it be tabled until the vote on the merger is held.

I am thinking that I will allow 24 hours of discussion on this, and after that, we will move directly to the merger vote.

I personally think that Senats candidates should be selected as follows, if there is more than one candidate:

50% of the vote is by members of the party within the province, and 50% of the vote is from members outside of the province.

Senators represent a province, sure, but they are also important safeguards for the Cosa.

Let's say that there are 3 members of the party in the province, and two of them are in a sort of fringe sub-branch. They propose one of them, while the party backs another.

They would get 2/3 in the province, which is 67%, but the rest of the party all vote for the other member (who has 1/3).

2/3 + 0   = 33.5% of the total vote
1/3 + 100 = 66.5% of the total vote.

The province still has a say, they are 50% of the vote, but that way, the party can make sure that the backed senate candidates trully represent the party.

[GV]

Table MPF's motion for now.  We can wait until after the merger to vote and discuss. - GV

[Miestră Schivă, UrN-GC]

This is it, guys. The vote is happening.

In accordance with Constitution article V, I am officially opening the vote on this motion:

• That this Convention of the Free Democrats of Talossa hereby endorses the formation of a new party, provisionally named l'Uniun dels Reformistaes Livereschti (URL) whose membership shall be that of the Free Democrats combined with the membership of el Partì da Reformaziun (PdR).
• That the provisional Constitution of the URL shall be as provided in this text, with the provision that this text may be amended by the first Convention of the URL.
• That upon passage of this motion, and upon passage of an equivalent motion by the PdR Convention, the Free Democrats of Talossa shall cease to exist; this convention shall be adjourned and instantly reconvene as the first Convention of the URL, with the addition of all PdR members. Miestra Schiva will be provisional chair of this Convention.
• That the first Convention of the URL, in addition to the other tasks mandated by the provisional Constitution, shall adopt a political Program for the new party.

You now have three days (72 hours) from the time of this post to vote. The motion needs two-thirds of votes to win.

[Antaglha Xhenerös Somelieir]

With a heavy heart, but firm in my belief, I will vote in favour of this merger.

We as a party have been running on fumes for too long, so I hope that this will help energise the people in our party should this vote be successful, in the new party being formed.

I hope that our fellow members vote in davie if this as if we choose to reject this, as much as it pains be to say, I think the party might collapse sooner than later. And although I will miss the free dems. Given our current state, it will be better to end this party now as is, and merge as a new party like a phoenix from ashes. Stronger than before.

The free dems have been a massive part of my Talossan identity and have made a lot of good Talossan freinds here. But sometimes changes need to be made, I will miss the days of the Freedems, but as long as we vote together to accept the merger, the people and the heart of the party will live on. Which is more important than clinging to a party that is slowly decaying.

We have accomplished a lot as a party, and our most recent major success was the removal of the previous monarch that was long overdue. We have a great legislative and governmental record, and have done our best to run Talossa with care and respect Talossa deserves. Even though we may be losing the party as it currently is should this pass, we will still be together with a clearer direction than we are currently.

So yes for all the reasons stated and more. I once again reaffirm my vote is to approve of this merger. And I hope our fellow party members do so as well.

[Iason Taiwos]

I guess I vote yes on this? I have absolutely no interest in any of this political crud. Someone let me know when I can stop being a Senator. Talossan politics is the dreariest, most boring and pointless thing I can imagine.