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Started by Eðo Grischun, September 17, 2020, 07:11:17 PM

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Açafat del Val

Quote from: Glüc da Dhi S.H. on September 22, 2020, 04:14:25 PM
Quote from: Miestră Schivă, UrN on September 22, 2020, 03:28:58 PM

The point was - I believe - to protest against our overly lax immigration laws of the time.



This is off-topic, so if @the SoS needs to move this elsewhere, I won't be offended... HOWEVER... Why "doubt"? Were there other purposes?
Cheers,

AdV
ex-Senator for Florencia
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Baron Alexandreu Davinescu

#61
Quote from: Miestră Schivă, UrN on September 22, 2020, 03:11:23 PM
Quote from: Sir Alexandreu Davinescu on September 22, 2020, 11:57:58 AM
Well, I guess you've certainly staked out a position.  I'll be interested to see what the people in power decide to do.

The conservative opposition, the LCC, have more than 1/3 of the Cosa and could enact the provisions of Lex E8, should they choose to. I will not do so myself because I oppose political tests in the immigration pipeline; but I don't speak for the other Government MCs on this issue. I really wish NRB would say "you're damn right I'm an anarchist!" and have the stones to make a passionate defence of his beliefs, but if he'd rather avoid the question, can't say I blame in him in the current climate.

(AD really thinks we don't see him trying to position himself as an impotent victim crying for justice over a wicked "power elite", so he can get this to seep into mainstream discourse if he says things like this often enough. Just making sure there's pushback.)

...what? I'm just a citizen, not a member of the Cosa in any regard. The people in power includes representatives from my party, as well as any of the other offices capable of overseeing this process. I understand the instinct to tribalism, but these days I'm thinking much more in terms of public versus the Ziu, than one party versus another.
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Baron Alexandreu Davinescu

#62
Quote from: Dr. Txec Róibeard dal Nordselvă, Esq., O.SPM, SMM on September 22, 2020, 03:15:07 PM

Maybe Nicholas is doing something similar? What makes that wrong?
He seems sincere in his espouse anarchism, and has anyone actually said that anarchists are not welcome? I didn't think that was at all the issue. I thought the issue was just the exceedingly obvious one that has been repeatedly belabored and studiously avoided... not the ends, but the means.
Alexandreu Davinescu, Baron Davinescu del Vilatx Freiric, Seneschal del Regipäts Talossan

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Miestră Schivă, UrN-GC

Yeah, it's very easy to post memes which while "just asking questions", spread doubt and suspicion about what I thought was settled historical fact. ESB's electoral fraud began as a protest at how new citizens were approved without even cursory checks as to how real they were. I have never heard that there was any "purpose" beyond that, but that it spiralled out of control because of where ESB's mindset was at in those days.

If you're going to drag up old history, please have the courage to say what you mean, not just drop innuendo.

¡LADINTSCHIÇETZ-VOI - rogetz-mhe cacsa!
"They proved me right, they proved me wrong, but they could never last this long"

Glüc

Quote from: Açafat del Val on September 22, 2020, 04:25:30 PM

This is off-topic, so if @the SoS needs to move this elsewhere, I won't be offended... HOWEVER... Why "doubt"? Were there other purposes?

I can't recall him ever arguing for stricter immigration controls outside of the article where he justified his actions. Actually, I believe he recently argued against ID laws.

On the other hand, he did use his sockpuppets to vote, engage in political arguments, attack political opponents and in one case pretend to support a party he didnt like in a way that made the sockpuppet (and thus the party) look like a complete tool.

Perhaps its true he was just trying to see how much he could get away with. I think its very likely he was also motivated by partisan interest. The 'I was doing this for a noble cause, like some ethical hacker' explanation I don't believe for one bit.
Director of Money Laundering and Sportswashing, Banqeu da Cézembre

Glüc

Quote from: Miestră Schivă, UrN on September 22, 2020, 04:46:03 PM
Yeah, it's very easy to post memes which while "just asking questions", spread doubt and suspicion about what I thought was settled historical fact. ESB's electoral fraud began as a protest at how new citizens were approved without even cursory checks as to how real they were. I have never heard that there was any "purpose" beyond that, but that it spiralled out of control because of where ESB's mindset was at in those days.

If you're going to drag up old history, please have the courage to say what you mean, not just drop innuendo.
I'm surprised people consider that settled history. I thought it was just a (rather unlikely) claim that he made after being caught. Either way, not trying to be sneaky or whatever. I meant to say that I don't believe that version. I'm not necessarily looking for historical debates, but if people are making that claim (which I thought was rewriting the narrative, but apparently it might already be the established narrative, which is even worse) I feel it needs to be challenged.
Director of Money Laundering and Sportswashing, Banqeu da Cézembre

NRB

Quote from: Açafat del Val on September 22, 2020, 04:10:46 PM
Quote from: NRB on September 22, 2020, 03:49:05 PM
the idea I'd try to take over the talossa.com domain is goddamn silly because 1) even if I did, somebody would just register something like kingdomoftalossa.com and restore the site from backups (you do have backups, right?) at the new domain, and because 2) fucking why lol that is dumb af.

It may be dumb as hell, but, uh, have you ever been on the internet? There are some sorry people out there who get their kicks by pissing in someone else's sandbox. Talossa has our laws not by happenstance, but by hard lessons learned in the past.

Which reminds me...

Quote from: NRB on September 22, 2020, 03:49:05 PM
Anyway AGAIN SORRY FOR BREAKING.

What Miestra said: If you're trying to play a character, you're doing it wrong. Just be you. The literal you, rather than some special-made version designed specifically for Talossa.

Quote from: Miestră Schivă, UrN on September 22, 2020, 04:00:37 PM
Do you know, you've gotten more interest and engagement than any new citizen we've had in years? Well done!

I echo the sentiment. Please don't let any of this turn you away. It's part of the culture. Talossa wouldn't be Talossa without the occasional quibble or squawking. It happens because every person here actually cares about what's going on. I think you're going to fit in just fine :-)

Please feel free to PM me, Miestra, Txec, or anyone else who's spoken in this thread. Any one of us would be more than happy to start getting you integrated outside Wittenberg. There's an entire underground of Facebook groups, outside projects, and discussion areas that aren't seen here. The sooner you start, the more confidently you can get naturalized!

This all seems fair enough. I'd be lying if i said I've never engaged in internet trolling but,  no. I've no interest in actually tearing everything apart. Even if all y'all turned out to assholes i'd rather just leave you to be assholes with each other than break your asshole website.

And i'm not really playing a character,  i mean I'm not pretending to be someone else or whatever.

But anyway sorry for breaking AGAIN




Baron Alexandreu Davinescu

Quote from: Miestră Schivă, UrN on September 22, 2020, 04:46:03 PM
This is a tendentious rewriting of history. ESB's sock puppets - inc. Benedict Stamford - personally attacked me in a way that makes AD's sniping look like friendly banter. A strange way to go about it if he wanted to help the ZRT win.
Didn't he cast more than a dozen votes for the ZRT? And serve as one of your legislators?

I mean, Gluc seems obviously right to me. Outside of his criminal defense arguments, I don't know that ESB has ever been any sort of advocate for stricter identity verification.
Alexandreu Davinescu, Baron Davinescu del Vilatx Freiric, Seneschal del Regipäts Talossan

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NRB

Quote from: Miestră Schivă, UrN on September 22, 2020, 04:00:37 PM
Do you know, you've gotten more interest and engagement than any new citizen we've had in years? Well done!


Éovart Andrinescù

Quote from: NRB on September 22, 2020, 05:04:30 PM
And i'm not really playing a character,  i mean I'm not pretending to be someone else or whatever.

But anyway sorry for breaking AGAIN

bruh just stop saying you're breaking character at the end of every post

NRB

Quote from: Éovart Andrinescù on September 22, 2020, 08:44:12 PM
Quote from: NRB on September 22, 2020, 05:04:30 PM
And i'm not really playing a character,  i mean I'm not pretending to be someone else or whatever.

But anyway sorry for breaking AGAIN

bruh just stop saying you're breaking character at the end of every post

OK.

NRB

hey yo, so I watched a few videos on the OFFICIAL Talossa YouTube channel and I realize they're all like 30 years old and are probably out of date BUT

one video states that provinces are assigned based on a person's location in the world. How does that work? I have been unsuccessful in finding this info on either the wiki or the forums - though I didn't spend more than like 30 seconds searching so

King Txec

Quote from: NRB on September 24, 2020, 03:03:39 PM
hey yo, so I watched a few videos on the OFFICIAL Talossa YouTube channel and I realize they're all like 30 years old and are probably out of date BUT

one video states that provinces are assigned based on a person's location in the world. How does that work? I have been unsuccessful in finding this info on either the wiki or the forums - though I didn't spend more than like 30 seconds searching so

http://wiki.talossa.com/Law:El_Lexhatx#E._Immigration

Look at Section 7.3.3 for more info.
TXEC R, by the Grace of God, King of Talossa and of all its Realms and Regions, King of Cézembre, Sovereign Lord and Protector of Pengöpäts and the New Falklands, Defender of the Faith, Leader of the Armed Forces, Viceroy of Hoxha and Vicar of Atatürk
    

Eðo Grischun

Alexandria, VA would be assigned to Maritiimi-Maxhestic.
Eovart Grischun S.H.

Senator for Vuode
Former Distain and Cabinet Minister

Miestră Schivă, UrN-GC

You're that close to DC? I'm so sorry, you're going to have to be on the frontlines when the Trump autogolpe happens. Stay strong; the whole world will be counting on you. There are plenty of insane dictators in the world today, but most of them don't have nukes.

¡LADINTSCHIÇETZ-VOI - rogetz-mhe cacsa!
"They proved me right, they proved me wrong, but they could never last this long"

NRB

#75
Quote from: Miestră Schivă, UrN on September 24, 2020, 03:29:46 PM
You're that close to DC? I'm so sorry, you're going to have to be on the frontlines when the Trump autogolpe happens. Stay strong; the whole world will be counting on you. There are plenty of insane dictators in the world today, but most of them don't have nukes.

I think the good news is everyone here hates him and I know several people who will fight.

The bad news is, yeah, we're all probably going to die, and very soon.

Miestră Schivă, UrN-GC

Quote from: NRB on September 24, 2020, 03:49:25 PM
The bad news is, yeah, we're all probably going to die, and very soon.

That would be a relief, frankly. To die, be truly dead and out of it all... if you don't believe in a literal afterlife, a plan with no drawbacks. As Khrushchev put it way back when, "the living will envy the dead".

¡LADINTSCHIÇETZ-VOI - rogetz-mhe cacsa!
"They proved me right, they proved me wrong, but they could never last this long"

Baron Alexandreu Davinescu

Quote from: Miestră Schivă, UrN on September 24, 2020, 04:47:59 PM
Quote from: NRB on September 24, 2020, 03:49:25 PM
The bad news is, yeah, we're all probably going to die, and very soon.

That would be a relief, frankly. To die, be truly dead and out of it all... if you don't believe in a literal afterlife, a plan with no drawbacks. As Khrushchev put it way back when, "the living will envy the dead".
You feeling okay? If you need someone to talk to, I'm here.
Alexandreu Davinescu, Baron Davinescu del Vilatx Freiric, Seneschal del Regipäts Talossan

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NRB

Alright so just an FYI if anyone needs it. Looks like you're a Kiwi, Miestră Schivă, UrN. so...

NZ suicide hotline:     0800-543-354
NZ domestic violence hotline:     0800 733 843

And for the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA

suicide hotline:     800-784-2433
domestic violence hotline:     800-799-7233

Miestră Schivă, UrN-GC

Wait a minute - you say things like this

Quotewe're all probably going to die, and very soon.

and people don't start worrying about your mental health. That's kinda ableist.

¡LADINTSCHIÇETZ-VOI - rogetz-mhe cacsa!
"They proved me right, they proved me wrong, but they could never last this long"