[Govt] Statement on Recent Events in Venezuela

[Baron Alexandreu Davinescu]

Statement by the Kingdom of Talossa Regarding the Trump Administration's Recent Extrajudicial Kidnappings and Illegal Invasion in Venezuela

Early this morning and at the direction of their president, Donald Trump, the United States of America invaded the sovereign territory of the state of Venezuela, murdered an unknown number of people, kidnapped at least two individuals, and announced that they had seized control of Venezuela and would be "running it" for an indeterminate amount of time with plans to extract its national resources.  These actions of war and criminality were taken without authorization from the United States Congress, a necessary step according to their constitution, and without the authorization of any international entity which might conceivably have provided a legal basis for these crimes.

Regardless of the merits of Nicolás Maduro and Cilia Flores, it is illegal and immoral for the United States to kidnap the citizens of another country, to murder other citizens in pursuit of that goal, or to purport to take control of the sovereign territory of another country.  These norms protect not only other countries from Americans, but they also protect Americans from the potential predatory actions of other countries.  On what basis can Americans appeal to their national sovereignty when they violate it at will?

Put simply: it's illegal and wrong to murder and kidnap people from another country.

The Kingdom of Talossa condemns these acts in the strongest possible terms, and urges its citizens to speak up against them, wherever they are and however they can.


Signed,
Alexandreu Davinescu, Seneschal del Regipäts Talossan es Baron Davinescu del Vilatx Freiric

His Majesty, King Txec, by the Grace of God, King of Talossa and of all its realms and regions, King of Cezembre, Viscount of Vuode, Sovereign Lord and Protector of Pengopats and the New Falklands, Head of the Church, Defender of the Faith, Leader of the Armed Forces, Viceroy of Hoxha and Vicar of Ataturk

[Françal I. Lux]

I wholeheartedly agree with the Seneschal's statement and vehemently condemn the actions taken by the current American administration.

[Baron Alexandreu Davinescu]

At the request of His Majesty, I have added His Grace as a signatory as our head of state.

[Mximo Malt]

This is why I'm an isolationist. It's NOT their problem to deal with!!!!!!!!!

[Breneir Tzaracomprada]

I don't like how it happened but I am honestly glad he is gone. I don't care if they are tried in New York or The Hague but I hope Maduro and his wife will be jailed for decades as the authors of misery and destabilization for decades. And that the safe and secure return of Maria Camacho Machado and Edmundo Gonzales (the actual president of Venezuela) from exile can help start the rebuilding of democracy in Venezuela.

The sight and sound of Venezuelans chanting and crying in the streets brings me back to talking with Venezuelan refugees in Colombia in 2019 while on a human rights delegation. I tried to imagine those refugees fear and now maybe a little bit of hope that they might be able to come home.

[Mximo Malt]

I don't like how it happened but I am honestly glad he is gone. I don't care if they are tried in New York or The Hague but I hope Maduro and his wife will be jailed for decades as the authors of misery and destabilization for decades. And that the safe and secure return of Maria Camacho Machado and Edmundo Gonzales (the actual president of Venezuela) from exile can help start the rebuilding of democracy in Venezuela.

The sight and sound of Venezuelans chanting and crying in the streets brings me back to talking with Venezuelan refugees in Colombia in 2019 while on a human rights delegation. I tried to imagine those refugees fear and now maybe a little bit of hope that they might be able to come home.

It's what I always say: Everyone does the right thing, just the wrong way.

[Miestră Schivă, UrN-GC]

Endorsed.

I was a critical supporter of Hugo Chavez, but Maduro is Venezuela's Stalin and has buried all the gains of the Bolivarian revolution. Actual Venezuelan leftists who have suffered under the dictatorship condemn Trump's kidnapping without hesitation while not neglecting to say that this guy was the enemy of the people.

I'm honestly partial to the idea that Maduro's VP sold him out in return for the survival of the rest of her corrupt regime. People who are imagining that now Machado or Gonzalez can return and take over are not paying attention - in fact, they're dreaming. Trump hasn't even pretended this is about democracy. Once again, Maduro's whole regime are still there and acting defiant. Some people have learned nothing from 2003.

If you cheer this, nothing will stop this happening next time in Havana, Mexico City, Bogotá, or anywhere else someone crosses the whims of the Orange Goblin.

Maduro and Flores have to be returned to Venezuela, now, so Venezuelans can deal with them. More details about how we got here, from a socialist perspective.

[Mximo Malt]

Endorsed.

I was a critical supporter of Hugo Chavez, but Maduro is Venezuela's Stalin and has buried all the gains of the Bolivarian revolution. Actual Venezuelan leftists who have suffered under the dictatorship condemn Trump's kidnapping without hesitation while not neglecting to say that this guy was the enemy of the people.

I'm honestly partial to the idea that Maduro's VP sold him out in return for the survival of the rest of her corrupt regime. People who are imagining that now Machado or Gonzalez can return and take over are not paying attention - in fact, they're dreaming. Trump hasn't even pretended this is about democracy. Once again, Maduro's whole regime are still there and acting defiant. Some people have learned nothing from 2003.

If you cheer this, nothing will stop this happening next time in Havana, Mexico City, Bogotá, or anywhere else someone crosses the whims of the Orange Goblin.

Maduro and Flores have to be returned to Venezuela, now, so Venezuelans can deal with them. More details about how we got here, from a socialist perspective.

Seems like we finally agree on something, Mdme Schivă.

[Mximo Malt]

...Head of the Church, Defender of the Faith

Ahem, what church is he head of? What faith is he defending?


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[Baron Alexandreu Davinescu]

That's the traditional title.  I don't know that Talossa's sovereigns have ever cared to specify.

[Mximo Malt]

That's the traditional title.  I don't know that Talossa's sovereigns have ever cared to specify.

Sounds English to me, but meh.


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[Baron Alexandreu Davinescu]

The title is dictated by the law in Lexh.L.6.  I actually think a Prog has some legislation they're working on to eliminate this bit of the title.  I don't know how His Majesty feels about it.

[King Txec]

...Head of the Church, Defender of the Faith

Ahem, what church is he head of? What faith is he defending?


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Head of the church is not part of my title. As for "defender of the faith" that bit I think of like this: I defend all the various faiths of all the citizens of Talossa, not some specific state-sanctioned version. I personally am Roman Catholic, but I've never felt that my faith is superior or inferior to any other (or lack thereof). We are free to worship as we please, and I as sovereign, am the defender of that right.

-Txec R

[Mximo Malt]

...Head of the Church, Defender of the Faith

Ahem, what church is he head of? What faith is he defending?


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Head of the church is not part of my title. As for "defender of the faith" that bit I think of like this: I defend all the various faiths of all the citizens of Talossa, not some specific state-sanctioned version. I personally am Roman Catholic, but I've never felt that my faith is superior or inferior to any other (or lack thereof). We are free to worship as we please, and I as sovereign, am the defender of that right.

-Txec R

When you put it that way, it makes more sense. Thanks, Majestas.


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