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Online Dr. Txec Róibeard dal Nordselvă, Esq., O.SPM, SMM

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Re: Announcement Regarding the Royal Talossan College of Arms
« Reply #15 on: March 26, 2022, 06:16:58 PM »
I’m good with the changes in the rules, as well as the shifts in personnel. Let’s approach the SKA.

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Re: Announcement Regarding the Royal Talossan College of Arms
« Reply #16 on: March 27, 2022, 07:18:40 AM »
I emailed him. He has not been very active in a while, but as we've seen that can all change as people get interested in involved again. Maybe this will be the thing that does it for him!

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Re: Announcement Regarding the Royal Talossan College of Arms
« Reply #17 on: March 27, 2022, 02:36:47 PM »
@Baron Alexandreu Davinescu ,
I wanted to take a moment and thank you for spearheading this refreshment of one of the more important cultural elements on the Kingdom. We haven't always seen eye to eye on issues, but I do know you are passionate about this nation and I appreciate your efforts with the College. Well done sir!

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Re: Announcement Regarding the Royal Talossan College of Arms
« Reply #18 on: April 01, 2022, 10:00:05 PM »
Dean says that the rules consolidation seems fine to him, but that he's less sure about the staffing changes since he thinks maybe only heralds should get emeritus status.  Not sure if he's made up his mind, quite?  Either way, going to move the rules changes over to live.  I think this is actually the first refresh and update to the arms process in... what, fifteen years or so?  Pretty happy to be moving forward with it, either way, and glad this place is humming again.

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Re: Announcement Regarding the Royal Talossan College of Arms
« Reply #19 on: April 01, 2022, 10:06:32 PM »
I’m thinking also that major changes or staffing decisions such as emeritus, movement from Fellow to Pursuivant to Herald could be more formalized. This is a college, after all, so perhaps some system of voting for future shifts? Just an idea.

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Re: Announcement Regarding the Royal Talossan College of Arms
« Reply #20 on: April 01, 2022, 10:20:25 PM »
I’m thinking also that major changes or staffing decisions such as emeritus, movement from Fellow to Pursuivant to Herald could be more formalized. This is a college, after all, so perhaps some system of voting for future shifts? Just an idea.

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Yeah, I agree.  My first thought was a vote, but maybe a formal process of appeal by a fellow of the equivalent rank might make sense?  Worth some thought.

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Re: Announcement Regarding the Royal Talossan College of Arms
« Reply #21 on: April 02, 2022, 01:55:17 AM »
I’m thinking also that major changes or staffing decisions such as emeritus, movement from Fellow to Pursuivant to Herald could be more formalized. This is a college, after all, so perhaps some system of voting for future shifts? Just an idea.

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This sounds like a smart idea to me. Having at least some clear set of guidelines can only reduce confusion.

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Re: Announcement Regarding the Royal Talossan College of Arms
« Reply #22 on: April 02, 2022, 09:51:07 AM »
The college has always been understaffed, and amongst those handful of people, they have a tendency to leave.

It's too early to start formal voting principles for promotions etc. Let us just work together for sometime, and then think of bringing some changes.

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Re: Announcement Regarding the Royal Talossan College of Arms
« Reply #23 on: April 02, 2022, 10:07:36 AM »
The college has always been understaffed, and amongst those handful of people, they have a tendency to leave.

It's too early to start formal voting principles for promotions etc. Let us just work together for sometime, and then think of bringing some changes.

Dean BenArd
Fair enough, but it's been 2 months of steadily increasing activity in the College again, and I think Eagle has a point that having more clear expectations will help. We've lost a ton of institutional memory recently, considering how few heralds are left. I agree that it will be premature to suddenly set these policies in place now, but it's a good idea to start thinking about them, right?
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Re: Announcement Regarding the Royal Talossan College of Arms
« Reply #24 on: April 23, 2022, 04:59:32 PM »
Just to be clear, happy to be "retired" for now. Re Odd Fellow, all I'll say is it's sad, really, but necessary, to expunge the record - there was some very good work by the Odd Fellow.
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Re: Announcement Regarding the Royal Talossan College of Arms
« Reply #25 on: April 30, 2022, 01:13:16 PM »
Azul,
I hope it is not too late, however I would indeed like to confirm my status with the College and retain my title! :)
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Re: Announcement Regarding the Royal Talossan College of Arms
« Reply #26 on: April 30, 2022, 02:19:36 PM »
Duly noted!

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Re: Announcement Regarding the Royal Talossan College of Arms
« Reply #27 on: May 10, 2022, 07:33:06 AM »
I further propose that that earlier list of the inactive has stood for a long time, and we should act with some common sense about these inactive folks, and be a bit more consistent. We should create the unnamed positions of Fellow emeritus and Pursuivant emeritus.  Heralds should probably be permitted to keep their titles for life, even when moved to an emeritus status, as now.  Then we should make the following changes:

The Odd Fellow, Iustì Canun, should be stripped of all office and privilege, and he should be formally ejected from the College.

The former Lookout Fellow, Sir Tamorán dal Navâ, UrN, the former Long Fellow, Davíu Lundescu, the former Well-Met Fellow, Tímoþi Asmourescu, and the former Oblivious Auditing Fellow, Pôl d'Aurìbuérg, should all be appointed as Fellows emeritus.  They are welcome to return and assume a named position at any time (assuming they are Talossan citizens at the time).

The Mellow Fellow, Owen Edwards, and the Jolly Good Fellow, Alèxandreu Soleighlfred, should all be moved from their positions and appointed as Fellows emeritus.

The Penzance Pursuivant, Sir Mick Preston, UrN should be moved from his position and appointed as Pursuivant emeritus.

Making these changes, since I think there's a consensus in their favor, excepting Cresti's fellowship (since he says he wants to stay active) and the striking of Iusti, since there's disagreement on that score.

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Re: Announcement Regarding the Royal Talossan College of Arms
« Reply #28 on: May 12, 2022, 10:10:15 AM »
I further propose that that earlier list of the inactive has stood for a long time, and we should act with some common sense about these inactive folks, and be a bit more consistent. We should create the unnamed positions of Fellow emeritus and Pursuivant emeritus.  Heralds should probably be permitted to keep their titles for life, even when moved to an emeritus status, as now.  Then we should make the following changes:

The Odd Fellow, Iustì Canun, should be stripped of all office and privilege, and he should be formally ejected from the College.

The former Lookout Fellow, Sir Tamorán dal Navâ, UrN, the former Long Fellow, Davíu Lundescu, the former Well-Met Fellow, Tímoþi Asmourescu, and the former Oblivious Auditing Fellow, Pôl d'Aurìbuérg, should all be appointed as Fellows emeritus.  They are welcome to return and assume a named position at any time (assuming they are Talossan citizens at the time).

The Mellow Fellow, Owen Edwards, and the Jolly Good Fellow, Alèxandreu Soleighlfred, should all be moved from their positions and appointed as Fellows emeritus.

The Penzance Pursuivant, Sir Mick Preston, UrN should be moved from his position and appointed as Pursuivant emeritus.

Making these changes, since I think there's a consensus in their favor, excepting Cresti's fellowship (since he says he wants to stay active) and the striking of Iusti, since there's disagreement on that score.

-NRH

I would still insist on Emeritus status for Heralds and Pursuivants, and 'Former' status to Fellows who are no longer active. In academic institution too, former Professors acting as guest faculty are often given the 'emeritus' status, but not so for junior staff.

Plus our fellows do occupy a particular seat, so if we remove their seats from their designation, our records get complicated. On the other hand, the former tag shows that they had vacated the seats for newer recruits.

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Re: Announcement Regarding the Royal Talossan College of Arms
« Reply #29 on: May 12, 2022, 10:39:19 AM »
I further propose that that earlier list of the inactive has stood for a long time, and we should act with some common sense about these inactive folks, and be a bit more consistent. We should create the unnamed positions of Fellow emeritus and Pursuivant emeritus.  Heralds should probably be permitted to keep their titles for life, even when moved to an emeritus status, as now.  Then we should make the following changes:

The Odd Fellow, Iustì Canun, should be stripped of all office and privilege, and he should be formally ejected from the College.

The former Lookout Fellow, Sir Tamorán dal Navâ, UrN, the former Long Fellow, Davíu Lundescu, the former Well-Met Fellow, Tímoþi Asmourescu, and the former Oblivious Auditing Fellow, Pôl d'Aurìbuérg, should all be appointed as Fellows emeritus.  They are welcome to return and assume a named position at any time (assuming they are Talossan citizens at the time).

The Mellow Fellow, Owen Edwards, and the Jolly Good Fellow, Alèxandreu Soleighlfred, should all be moved from their positions and appointed as Fellows emeritus.

The Penzance Pursuivant, Sir Mick Preston, UrN should be moved from his position and appointed as Pursuivant emeritus.

Making these changes, since I think there's a consensus in their favor, excepting Cresti's fellowship (since he says he wants to stay active) and the striking of Iusti, since there's disagreement on that score.

-NRH

I would still insist on Emeritus status for Heralds and Pursuivants, and 'Former' status to Fellows who are no longer active. In academic institution too, former Professors acting as guest faculty are often given the 'emeritus' status, but not so for junior staff.

Plus our fellows do occupy a particular seat, so if we remove their seats from their designation, our records get complicated. On the other hand, the former tag shows that they had vacated the seats for newer recruits.

Dean BenArd
I left the Heralds their titles.  I think Cresti S is the only emeritus Pursuivant, so at your direction, I'll restore his title.

-NRH
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