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Offline Txosuè Éiric Rôibeardescù

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Patriots for Talossa
« on: April 12, 2021, 06:29:46 PM »
As Conservative, I will always try to keep to the status quo, where I can. Secession is a big step and not one to be taken lightly.
We know where this road leads, history will repeat itself and the trauma will be passed to the next generation of citizens. We must end this cycle.
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Re: Patriots for Talossa
« Reply #1 on: April 14, 2021, 06:17:30 AM »
As Conservative, I will always try to keep to the status quo, where I can. Secession is a big step and not one to be taken lightly.
We know where this road leads, history will repeat itself and the trauma will be passed to the next generation of citizens. We must end this cycle.

One reason I offered the Taiwan analogy - in some places there can be one country - two systems.  Some think of Bavaria in this manner as well - im Bayern geht es alles anders.

Some believe that a 7-year president is the equivalent of a King.  I beg to differ.

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Re: Patriots for Talossa
« Reply #2 on: April 14, 2021, 06:48:37 AM »
I don’t believe the Taiwan analogy is the the best example of that. Mainland china does not recognise it as a country and refuses dealings often with bodies when they also do dealings with Taiwan. I would defiantly not support any system like that at all.
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Re: Patriots for Talossa
« Reply #3 on: April 14, 2021, 09:14:33 AM »
I don’t believe the Taiwan analogy is the the best example of that. Mainland china does not recognise it as a country and refuses dealings often with bodies when they also do dealings with Taiwan. I would defiantly not support any system like that at all.

At minimum it definitely is not a situation to strive for!
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Re: Patriots for Talossa
« Reply #4 on: April 14, 2021, 10:24:37 AM »
I don’t believe the Taiwan analogy is the the best example of that. Mainland china does not recognise it as a country and refuses dealings often with bodies when they also do dealings with Taiwan. I would defiantly not support any system like that at all.

At minimum it definitely is not a situation to strive for!

The people of Taiwan pursue a system of their beliefs and would be unlikely to prevail in changing the hearts and minds of China.  If there are eventually enough people in Taiwan that agree with the form of Chinese government then that may change.

A revolution, albeit incremental, is occurring in Talossa as it changes from a Kingdom to a Republic -- regardless of what window dressing is put on elected positions.  The question is whether Cezembre wishes to remain a Kingdom.

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Re: Patriots for Talossa
« Reply #5 on: April 14, 2021, 11:30:49 AM »
Not sure if you have been paying attention... but let’s just check this here... I of all people am... yes... aware of that.

However breaking everything into little bits before... let’s just check that again... ah yes, didn’t work either last time.
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Re: Patriots for Talossa
« Reply #6 on: April 14, 2021, 03:30:24 PM »
Lotsa words being bandied around here to avoid saying that yes, XPB wants to split Cézembre from Talossa, for a King who's not even interested in Talossa any more (so why would he be interested in schismastic Cezembre, lol). Also interesting that XPB keeps talking about a "hereditary monarchy", which was abolished last year and I don't remember him getting upset. If John's interest in Talossa is zero, Patrick's is negative.

Anyway, looks pretty plain that the majority of opinion in CZ supports compromise over schism, so that's good.
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Re: Patriots for Talossa
« Reply #7 on: April 14, 2021, 10:22:59 PM »
Lotsa words being bandied around here to avoid saying that yes, XPB wants to split Cézembre from Talossa, for a King who's not even interested in Talossa any more (so why would he be interested in schismastic Cezembre, lol). Also interesting that XPB keeps talking about a "hereditary monarchy", which was abolished last year and I don't remember him getting upset. If John's interest in Talossa is zero, Patrick's is negative.

Anyway, looks pretty plain that the majority of opinion in CZ supports compromise over schism, so that's good.

A majority of Cézembre opinon may indeed wish to support the evolution of the Kingdom of Talossa to be the Republic of Talossa, with all the trappings of that type of system.  My interest is in Cézembre remaining a Kingdom, which may be a minority opinion.  It is not a split to remain as such, on the contrary it is the split the Republic is making.