Quote from: Breneir Tzaracomprada on July 01, 2025, 09:16:43 AMI can't see the individual Cosa and Senats threads anymore. Or the Science Fiction board. Where can the moved or collapsed threads be found?

If the boards can no longer be seen that is not a small issue, Mr. Secretary.
Could you please let me know where the moved boards can be seen? @Sir Lüc

Quote from: Sir Lüc on July 01, 2025, 09:15:08 AMRight, I have implemented virtually all of the proposed/requested tweaks.

Thank you!

Quote from: Sir Lüc on July 01, 2025, 09:15:08 AMThe lone outstanding issue is to perhaps collapse all provinces into a single board right below the main Wittenberg one. I am somewhere like 75%-25% in favour of doing that at the moment.

The provincial boards all have posts from the last few months, and that's why I didn't recommend that.  I don't think it would be outrageous, but there has actually been a good amount of local activity lately, so maybe wait on that and see how you feel in a few days?

Quote from: Sir Lüc on July 01, 2025, 09:15:08 AMAdditionally, I am pondering whether we should split the Chat Room into a Hobby/Offtopic board, which would now be public, and an all-purpose private board (for personal stuff and also threads like the recent immigration thing).

That makes sense -- I'd suggest the Chat Room (perhaps renamed "Private"?) could then be a sub-board of that Off-Topic board?

It would be good to get the Government's opinion on this (maybe that already happened in private?) as well as His Majesty's, too.

I can't see the individual Cosa and Senats threads anymore. Or the Science Fiction board. Where can the moved or collapsed threads be found?

Right, I have implemented virtually all of the proposed/requested tweaks.

The lone outstanding issue is to perhaps collapse all provinces into a single board right below the main Wittenberg one. I am somewhere like 75%-25% in favour of doing that at the moment.

Additionally, I am pondering whether we should split the Chat Room into a Hobby/Offtopic board, which would now be public, and an all-purpose private board (for personal stuff and also threads like the recent immigration thing).

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Voting on the July 2025 Clark (the third of the 61st Cosă) is now open, until the 21st of the month, at 19h30 TST.

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Secretary of State

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Azul.

This morning I have taken my time to review the first five pages of posts in the Hopper Archive, corresponding to two year's worth of CRL work. In no instance a bill was Clarked without some sort of explicit approval from at least two members, though with different phrasing, so I am really wondering as to what precedent the Seneschal is referring to.

This is enough for me to revert to my initial interpretation, as both 1) the existing law is clear though flawed, and 2) I agree this would be an unfortunate precedent to set that could no doubt be exploited by bad actors. I would still urge the members of the CRL who have not weighed in on the edits to please pay attention to Witt in the few days at the end of the month when the work of the committee ramps up. That would substantially reduce the odds of finding ourselves in such undesirable situations.

Quote from: Mic'haglh Autófil, O.Be on June 30, 2025, 11:33:11 PMFor us, a free-for-all approach accomplishes exactly one thing: a ballooned citizenship roll with people who do nothing for two years, don't vote, and then lose their citizenship.

That doesn't... seem very bad?  Casting a wide net and getting a smaller percentage of a larger number often yields a better outcome, in fact.  It's not like we need to feed the spreadsheet.  There's some slight problem with inactive citizens on the roll, but also it's an opportunity for people to circle back to what interested them initially -- maybe get involved in some way.

Beyond that philosophical difference, I think it's good that you guys are doing some stuff.  The self-promotion channel post and the questionnaire post you did this month and in May are good -- there have been zero dividends from the micronations promotion so far, but it's a good effort.  And it will be good if you do end up doing things like advertising in shops.  But this is thin gruel... and it doesn't seem to have worked.  If the Government had succeeded in managing this crisis, then the immigration rate wouldn't have dropped so dramatically.  I mean, one of those posts was only made the day after this thread started and pressure began to build on this issue!

We need to draw attention to the problem.  If you guys are engaged in a lot of secret efforts to fix this, but telling no one and not getting others engaged, you can't blame the people for ignorance of that. The Government is silent on this, and it's taken a full-court press by the Opposition to try to draw attention to this.

We should be trying lots of new things.  The main policy announced by this Government was to "raise the bar" by making it harder to immigrate.  Those paltry five minutes.  Okay, that seems to have failed.  Those five minutes might matter.  But more than that, we should be trying lots of things.  The only thing you could offer that has actually happened was some posts on Discord... does that seem like it's meeting the moment?  Why is the Seneschal saying that her entire focus is on reducing spam?  Is that wise?

We should set goals.  If this actually matters and we want to improve, then the Government should set a target for improvement.  Ideally, the Government could try to improve things, but maybe just set the target that the average immigration rate for the rest of the term will just be back where it was?  If not improvement, maybe the status quo?

Or maybe... maybe we just need a new approach.  Maybe the country deserves a new approach.