Quote from: mximo on Today at 02:42:01 PMHi,

I give 5 Days to the governor to show Up.

After that I Will be ready to vote on the VOC.

We need to reforms our constitution.

Mximo Carbonèl

Thanks Mximo.

Hi,

I give 5 Days to the governor to show Up.

After that I Will be ready to vote on the VOC.

We need to reforms our constitution.

Mximo Carbonèl

Quote from: Sir Lüc on Today at 06:24:56 AM1) I plan on sending a reminder to MZs and non-MZ Cabinet ministers, and a separate invitation for the wider citizenry, ideally on Saturday at the latest. The people in charge should let me know, here or somewhere more convenient, about as many details as they wish me to put in the mailers (eg. videocall link, final/tentative program, time and date, etc.)

2) The Chancery would be happy to assist with putting together a PDF version of an Order Paper, for reference and as a memento. Material like that is probably under the whole purview of the Ziu's presiding officers, actually, since it's something separate from the Clark; but since I don't think I have much else to do besides just showing up on the videocall to tally votes, I am happy to help if it's something people would like.

1) So far, the info on talossa.com is all there is. There is no link yet, if I'm honest I'm not really sure what platform this is going to be on. I'm guessing it's Zoom, but I don't use Zoom so I have no idea how that works. We'll need to discuss this one more I think...

2) That would be awesome!!, though I'm not sure if there is enough planned for a full Order Paper... Maybe the agenda and pre-submitted Terps, but nothing else is really planned (i.e. no one who pre-registered for speaking on any bill or anything like that, and no fixed times for any events except 11:00 TST being when it starts)

Here is a first draft. I'm prone to overthinking and overplanning, so there is a decent chance that this is way too much overhead and we won't end up needing any of it. Let me know if that's the case, or if you want to make other comments.

Welcome @savelev.mikh

I am not sure if you have been introduced yet as a new immigration applicant but please do tell us about yourself!

Breneir

Two things:

1) I plan on sending a reminder to MZs and non-MZ Cabinet ministers, and a separate invitation for the wider citizenry, ideally on Saturday at the latest. The people in charge should let me know, here or somewhere more convenient, about as many details as they wish me to put in the mailers (eg. videocall link, final/tentative program, time and date, etc.)

2) The Chancery would be happy to assist with putting together a PDF version of an Order Paper, for reference and as a memento. Material like that is probably under the whole purview of the Ziu's presiding officers, actually, since it's something separate from the Clark; but since I don't think I have much else to do besides just showing up on the videocall to tally votes, I am happy to help if it's something people would like.

It means a majority of the people present at the LC.  This is problematic in some ways, such as the one you noted.  A much bigger problem is that it privileges those people in attendance.  I've been in a government meeting where the outcome hinged on the fact that one of the other people on the committee had the flu!  Thankfully, people are usually cognizant of the fact that their reputation and working relationships with others do matter.

I gave serious thought to just running the meeting autocratically, and that's probably the better way to do it -- no vote to overrule the chair allowed.

And I'd agree with your side note, generally, and I think it's a good goal to move to a Real Cosa someday.

Especially the proviso "majority of MZs" is confusing to me. Would, when voting on procedure, every attending MZ get one vote? Considering how the Cosă is composed, this seems unfair to me. But on the other hand, if MCs get as many votes as they have seats, how many votes do Senators get? Just one (extemely unbalanced), 25 (=200/8, but sort of arbitrary), some other number?

As a sidenote, it's because of things like this that I think of the status quo as a hindrance to more face-to-face events that needs to be overcome rather than something worth hanging on to.

Quote from: Baron Alexandreu Davinescu on Yesterday at 04:35:02 PMThis obviously heavily draws from my experience in local government and activist groups, using rules for order common to a lot of groups.

That's perfectly fine. Most of my 'experience' with these things come from watching Bundestag broadcasts, so I'm grateful for every bit of real know-how that I can get!

This obviously heavily draws from my experience in local government and activist groups, using rules for order common to a lot of groups.