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It is my pleasure to open call for bills of the November 2021 Clark.

Eventually, the clark can be viewed in real time here:

www.talossa.ca/files/cosa_vote_result.php?cosa=56&clark=3 (for the votes)

and here:

www.talossa.ca/files/clark.php?cosa=56&clark=3 (for the bills )

It is NOT too late to submit bills, of course, as you have OFFICIALLY until the morning of the 31st of this month, provided your bills have been in the Hopper before end of business day the 15th, of course. I will make the Clark on November 1st's morning and bills submitted up to a few hours before that will probably also be taken.

PLEASE note that in order to support a bill, you need to:

1 ) Be a Senator, the Secretary of State or the King
or
2 ) Have been nominated as a Cosa Member for the upcoming Clark BEFORE the 15th,

To vote on the Clark, you will once again have 2 options:

1 ) You will be able to vote in the Clark thread (which will be created later on the 1st of November), as usual. I will enter your votes in the DB.

2 ) You will be able to vote directly in the database, using your usernumber and DB password (which you can retrieve at: www.talossa.ca/files/login.php using the PSC of the election) or by login via Facebook (which retrieve manual activation on my part).



Dr. Txec dal Nordselvă,
Secretár d'Estat
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The Lobby / Re: 56th Cosa Clark 2 Now Open
« Last post by Dr. Txec Róibeard dal Nordselvă, Esq., O.SPM, SMM on October 21, 2021, 09:05:07 PM »
56RZ3 Passed 145-0-0 in the Cosa; 7-0-0 in the Senate
56RZ4 Passed 131-00-14 in the Cosa; 5-2-0 in the Senate
56RZ5 Passed 134-11-0 7 in the Cosa; 7-0-0 in the Senate
56RZ6 Passed 80-31-34 in the Cosa; 6-1-0 in the Senate

The VoC passed 110-11-0

MZ's @Cresti da Ion Nouacastră-Läxhirescu, @Iason Taiwos, @Jordan Placie, and @Txoteu Davinescù did not vote.
Senator Eovart Grischun did not vote.



Dr. Txec dal Nordselvă,
Secretár d'Estat
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The Lobby / Re: 56th Cosa Clark 2 Now Open
« Last post by Glüc da Dhi S.H. on October 20, 2021, 03:30:44 PM »
RZ3 - Per

RZ4 - Per
Apologies for not finding the motivation/time to defend this in the Cosa when it was the subject of discussion. I do think Citaxhien Miestră's words are true and I thank her for coming up with this proposal, which I do hope will indeed improve the quality of our law making. I also thank her for accepting my amendments which will ensure that certain categories of bills for which additional scrutiny is not as necessary can pass the Cosa at the same rate as before. Of course, in case of emergencies there is still the Seneschal bypass.

I will note this particular clause in the bill: "6.5.3. The CRL may create further committees to which their functions may be delegated, as concerns any bill or category of bills. Such a committee must have at least 3 members, including at least 1 MC and at least 1 Senator.". I do hope that the CRL will use this clause and actually form Ziu commitees on particular bill categories/topics.

RZ5 - Con
I truly do appreciate the efforts of the Minister of Finance to answer my questions, especially considering his engagements outside Talossa. I also think the budget is the responsibility of the entire government and not just one person. I can't however, vote in favour of this. There doesn't seem to be any basis for the figure of 200$ as income from sales/donations this year and no (publicly available) government plan to reach that amount. There are no details on the registered agent plan and s;reu Tresplet does not seem to be around to tell us. This is important because there may be long term costs involved with this and the Ziu should really know what these are before acceding to this. Perhaps the government has inside information and plans about this that werent mentioned in the budget thread. I hope this is the case, but as I'm not part of the government I cannot just vote blindly on that hope.

RZ6 - Per

VoC - Non
I suppose since I'm voting against the budget this is the logical conclusion. Assuming the government will succeed in passing the budget regardless of my vote maybe I'll abstain again or vote per next time, depending on the government performance.
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The Cosa / Re: 56th Cosă -- October Clark Discussion Thread
« Last post by Françal I. Lux on October 18, 2021, 12:21:26 PM »
On to the final and perhaps most controversial bill of the Clark.

The Council of Governors does nothing at the moment. The Interior Minister is required by law to name a Governor-General and nothing else happens. Some MZs have put together quite good arguments for the Council to be maintained in some other format. But I consulted with the Interior Minister and he supported a total deletion. So here we are.
I believe we need to downsize the government to a more managable size and prioritize the institutions critical to the day-to-day running of the country. There are so very few of us left, it's honestly a pipe dream to keep these sorts of institutions alive. Now, if a day comes where we become more active, I have no problem reviving this council again. 


F. I. Lux
Minister of Interior
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Wittenberg / Just wondering
« Last post by Tric'hard Lenxheir on October 17, 2021, 09:23:02 PM »
Is this billionaire stealing our nations name? I found this article on USA Today and I just wonder if this person is a current or former citizen attempting to steal our nations name. This seems awfully close. Here is a link to the news story. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/billionaire-marc-lore-outlines-how-he-will-build-the-inclusive-utopian-desert-city-telosa/ar-AAPCYXT?ocid=msedgntp
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The Cosa / Re: 56th Cosă -- October Clark Discussion Thread
« Last post by Miestră Schivă, UrN on October 17, 2021, 03:56:22 PM »
On to the final and perhaps most controversial bill of the Clark.

The Council of Governors does nothing at the moment. The Interior Minister is required by law to name a Governor-General and nothing else happens. Some MZs have put together quite good arguments for the Council to be maintained in some other format. But I consulted with the Interior Minister and he supported a total deletion. So here we are.
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The Lobby / Re: 56th Cosa Clark 2 Now Open
« Last post by Françal I. Lux on October 13, 2021, 08:44:51 PM »
I vote për on everything


F. I. Lux
Minister of Interior

Did you have a vote on the VoC?
I vote ÜC

(sorry didn't realize I didn't put that there)


F. I. Lux
Minister of Interior
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The Cosa / Re: 56th Cosă -- October Clark Discussion Thread
« Last post by Ian Plätschisch on October 13, 2021, 08:10:29 PM »
Azul,

Being the author of the RZ5, the Budget, I hope I am allowed to speak here despite not being a member of the Cosa. If not, I suppose you are free to toss me out.

The expenditures are based on either the Government's past experiences or our best estimates. While we have been informed that stamps cannot be purchased for $50, the Ziu will have to opportunity to vote again solely on the matter of stamps if the Government later decides to request additional monies. This decision will likely be based on how much income we receive through donations and sales of coins and stamps.
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PER on all.
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Again I would like to thank our esteemed colleague from Fiova.

RZ3- Per
RZ4- Per
RZ5- Per
RZ6- Per
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