Quote from: Breneir Tzaracomprada on November 27, 2023, 04:57:33 PM

Quote from: Breneir Tzaracomprada on November 20, 2023, 08:39:09 AMI rise to propose the following resolution:

Resolution 2023-03

Whereas, there has been recurring discussion on an apolitical Chancery, and

Whereas, this discussion began after the incumbent Secretary of State took office as the leader of a national partisan organization, and

Whereas, it is advisable that the nation's election administrator be free of even the appearance of partiality.

Therefore, be it resolved that the House of Shepherds of Florencia, endorses legal reform(s) of the Chancery to make it an apolitical institution.

Submitted by Breneir Tzaracomprada
Governor of Florencia
Royalist People's Party

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Discussion period ends on November 27th at 8:40 TST.

Discussion period has closed on Resolution 2023-03. We now move to voting. Voting will close on December 4, 2023 at 1657 TST. Votes received are as follows:

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No vote recorded: Acafat del Val
8 votes (Per): Breneir Tzaracomprada, Mximo Carbonel

The voting period for Resolution 2023-03 has closed. The House of Shepherds has approved it by a 8 Per to 0 Non vote. There was, again, no vote from the FreeDems member Acafat dal Val.

Quote from: Breneir Tzaracomprada on November 27, 2023, 04:53:38 PM

Quote from: Breneir Tzaracomprada on November 21, 2023, 02:16:04 PM

Quote from: Breneir Tzaracomprada on November 20, 2023, 08:14:52 AMI move the following motion:

2023-02

Whereas, Florencia has a proud tradition of supporting the institution of the Talossan monarchy, and Whereas, the question of monarchy reform has been a perennial subject of election campaigning.
Therefore, be it resolved that the House of Shepherds of Florencia encourages the Ziu to act without delay on the matter.


Mximo Carbonèl
Senator from Florencia

I forgot to clarify, discussion period on Resolution 2023-02 ends on November 26th 2023 at 2226 TST.

Discussion period has closed on Resolution 2023-02. We now move to voting. Voting will close on December 4th, 2023 at 1652 TST. We currently have the following votes recorded:

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7 votes (Per): @mximo
1 vote (Non): Breneir Tzaracomprada
No vote recorded: Acafat del Val

The voting period for Resolution 2023-02 has closed. The House of Shepherds has approved it by a 7 Per to 1 Non vote. There was, again, no vote from Acafat dal Val.

@þerxh Sant-Enogat Therxh, as the current STUFF Minister, I wanted to check on when the next edition of La C'hronica will be released?

For my part, I think all this seems good. I don't really have anything to add.

Quote from: Ian Plätschisch on Yesterday at 08:27:11 AMI wasn't arguing one way or the other about whether this bill is inorganic. I was making the broader point that if someone believes a bill to be inorganic, they should not vote for it.

Oh OK understood.

Everyone is free to have their own opinions. I was simply stating my belief that it may be inorganic. Reasonable people can disagree :-)

I wasn't arguing one way or the other about whether this bill is inorganic. I was making the broader point that if someone believes a bill to be inorganic, they should not vote for it.

Also, @mximo
I have withdrawn from the proposal but if you are still in support of it. It is open to being sponsored by you since you are a senator.

 

Quote from: Glüc da Dhi S.H. on December 03, 2023, 02:50:22 PM

Quote from: Sir Txec dal Nordselvă, UrB on December 03, 2023, 09:21:28 AMI would argue this proposed law violates the third covenant.

QuoteTalossans have the right to freely organize political parties and other organizations, subject to their own laws of membership, and this right may not be abridged except with regards to organizations which advocate the use of violence or intimidation to attain political or other ends, or which seek to restrain any person or group of people from the exercise of their rights as granted under these Covenants.

I would strongly disagree. We're not talking about the right to be a party officer. Anyone has that right. We are talking about requirements for secretary of state. This is a government function. It's is perfectly valid for the ziu to set restrictions on who can hold such a position. If this proposal were to pass anyone would still be free to become a party officer. They just could not also be sos. Super broad interpretations of convenants are dangerous, because it reduces the ability of the ziu and the people to hold the government accountable. The convenants should protect citizens from the state, not the other way round.

This was a well-stated response, @Sir Txec dal Nordselvă, UrB Do you have thoughts on this alternative view? @Ian Plätschisch ?

We need some mise à jour here ;)
In date of the 30th november 2023.

Mximo Carbonèl