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#106
Quote from: Ian Plätschisch on November 13, 2021, 12:17:52 PM

I would rather all this be handled by statute

Fair enough. But absent some provision granting the Ziu authority to do so, I doubt any statute to regulate a Convocation would be enforceable.   Maybe that is a good thing though.
#107
Quote from: Istefan Perþonest on August 25, 2021, 06:40:23 PM
Quote from: Miestră Schivă, UrN on August 25, 2021, 04:31:25 PM
Quote from: Glüc da Dhi S.H. on August 24, 2021, 06:11:33 PM
(plus there should definitely be some rules to establish what happens if no candidate gets 2/3rd of the vote anyway).

Then the UC continues as a Council of Regency until the Convocation gets its act together. Like what happens with papal elections. A pity we can't actually lock them up and put them on bread-and-water.
I will note that this would create a temptation for members of the CpI (as members of the convocation) to deliberately vote against every candidate for king in order to retain their power as a Council of Regency. Granted, they (we) likely wouldn't have enough votes to do that on their (our) own, but if support for a candidate among the other members wasn't near-unanimous, it could happen.

(A lot of my comment got deleted--cellphonesammirite?!?--so I deleted the incomplete post. Here are my revised 2¢.)

This presumes that all members of the CpI are active.  It also presupposes that all four Judges will work in some implicit or explicit conspiracy to remain in power.  Of course, the CpI is subject to political checks through Org.VIII.5, which enables the Ziu to remove a sitting Judge through the appropriate Notice of Reprimand sanctioning them for acting "in a manner that offends the Ziu in the Judge's official and individual capacity" (emphasis).   

Assuming, arguendo, that the Ziu got whiff of the grand conspiracy to retain power, any member of the Ziu can clark a Notice of Reprimand with removal as the sanction, and with 2/3 Cosa and majority Senate support--removed from the CpI and, ex officio, the Regency.  This standard is inarguably and objectively lower than what is necessary to remove the King--satisfying the threshold of obtaining a judgment from a competent medical authority that the King is incapable of exercising his duties* or a conviction from the CpI for "violation of the Organic Law, treason, bribery, nonfeasance endangering the safety, order or good government of the kingdom or other high crimes[.]"  Then there is Ziu support and an immediate referendum. 

Next, I'm unsure if I could serve as an elector in the Convocation in my own right.  "Any Talossan shall who has been a citizen for at least seven years of when the Convocation is called shall be eligible to be a member of the Convocation[.]" Is that an aggregate seven years or consecutive seven years? Asking for a conspirator friend. 

So, at minimum, you maybe get two or three electors from the CpI.  I do not know if SJ Cjantscheir or PJ Edwards have the time, so then it would fall to me, and I have no doubt PJ Perþonest will claim his right.  But in the off chance that all four Judges are involved, again, the chances of a conspiracy are simply so low and, even so, easily checked by the Ziu.  I think we can recognize the CpI concern is a it of a false cause. 

My thoughts on other points:

(1) I agree with Miestra that this should replace Org.II.4 and, accordingly, strike "Whenever the is no king, the CpI shall serve as Council of Regency"  as redundant (it would remain in Org.II.3).

(2) I agree with Miestra that Ziu should be to call an early Convocation, and I like that the threshold for early convocation is slightly higher and has a cooling off period.  It's a good balance.  Without it, a King could go completely unhinged in year 4 without recourse for three years, which we all know is a very long time in Talossa. 

(3) OMG STOP USING CpI. This it the first time the CpI is even mentioned in the Org Law.  Use "Uppermost Cort" to make it consistent with the other sections, or use Cort pü Inalt and change "Uppermost Cort" in the other sections.  But "CpI" is not defined or even found in the Org Law.

(4) Elector sounds better than member.

(5) If there really is concern about the CpI sabotaging the Convocation to stay in power, I would add something akin to this:

"A sitting Judge simultaneously serving in the Council of Regency and the Convocation shall enjoy the rights and privileges of their peers but shall be disqualified from casting a vote for King in the Convocation."

Purpose: If a CpI Judge really wants to vote, they have to resign the Cort, ergo the Regency, to do so.

(6) I'm also of the mind that overly complex rules and procedures will be problematic.  I'd wager such would also doom the Compromise on the Compromise to failure given that so many people have thoughts.  But there ought to be some parameters for setting how the Convocation conducts business and vote counting (especially in light of the secret ballot) as well as restricting the Ziu's influence.

Here are some draft provisions to consider:

"The Convocation may, as it deems necessary, adopt a rule, procedure, or protocol to conduct operation provided a majority of Electors supports any such rule, procedure, or protocol, or change thereto.  Any rule, procedure, or protocol adopted by a Convocation will not a subsequent Convocation." 

Purpose: This enables a Convocation to set its bylaws and prevents imputation of the bylaws of one to another.

"Before any vote for King is cast, the Conclave shall choose an Elector to serve as Herald in a manner it deems appropriate.  Within 96 hours of a vote for King ending, the Herald, the Secretary of State, and the Council of Regency shall, separately and independently of the other, count such votes, and the Herald, the Secretary of State, and the Council of Regency shall, separately and independently of the other, report one result to the Convocation.   After 96 hours, the vote for King is verified based on the vote count of the majority of timely reported results."

Purpose: Someone has to count votes within a reasonable time, but we cannot be at the mercy of never ending deadlines.  I felt four days was a good time to count votes and report it to the Convocation.  I used the EC as a blueprint and figured the SoS and Council of Regency were good bodies to report a vote count.  But I felt that Convocation should also have someone counting votes, hence the "Herald." Regarding the Council of Regency, this presumes no. 5 in my suggestions is adopted, so the CoR cannot vote anyway.  To ensure there it's not four against two, I tried to make it so the CoR get to report a single result (i.e. the CoR will speak with one voice, not four).  In any event, only a report received within 96 hours may be counted, and each of the three counts must be separate and independent.  Meaning, they are completely independent.  The counter will have verified the vote came from a properly sat Elector and then just mark their vote.  The report should be the total number of votes for a candidate. Presumably the numbers will be the same.   

"The Ziu may enact legislation to impose civil and criminal sanctions upon any person guilty of dispensing to another an Elector's vote absent the express permission of that Elector or absent law providing such.  The Ziu may also enact legislation for the investigation of any suspected malfeasance referred to it by the Convocation, and, if warranted, the enforcement of a violation of any law resulting such investigation may reveal."

Purpose: The integrity of the Convocation and the vote must be protected, but within reason.  The Organic Law should not have criminal conduct. The Ziu should have very limited influence on the Convocation, but the Convocation should not be able to control the Ziu.  So I figured a balance.  In reverse order: The Convocation can refer a suspected malfeasance, whatever that means, to the Ziu.  But the Ziu must have already enacted legislation agreeing to that referral.  This is to cover concerns that really are connected and inseparable from the Convocation, and neither the Ziu nor Convocation can force how the other acts.  The Ziu can enact broad legislation that accepts all referrals for investigation, or it can limit it to specific conduct. The Convocation can select which conduct to investigate, but doesn't have the authority to investigate itself.  Of course, the Organic right to due process and the Organic protection against ex post facto laws means that the Ziu's acceptance and potential liability must exist at the time of the suspected conduct.  Finally, because of the CpI's involvement in the CoR, I wanted to leave open how such conduct might be prosecuted (i.e. a special court, maybe the Common Cort  only, etc.). 

There is an exemption--If the Ziu enacts a law imposing some type of liability on someone who reveals the contents of an Elector's vote, it does not need the Convocation to grant authority for an investigation and possible legal action to follow.  The conduct is actually not tied into the Convocation per se because a Herald or SoS or person on the CoR from a Convocation 10 years ago does not get to decide that the vote is no longer secret.  And also, I felt it necessary to protect the secrecy of the vote. 

Just my 2¢. (I started writing this in response to the concern about the CpI, and then I just kept going.)

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*Because I'm in a whimsical mood (and I want to stress how the present threshold to commence removing the King is implausible), let's talk about competent medial authority.   I doubt anyone would ever find a competent medical authority to conclude the King is unfit to perform his duties--not because they do not exist, but because I doubt any competent medical authority would entertain such a request.  The exchange would go something like this:  "Hi, we're from the Kingdom of Talossa. We claim part of U.S. territory as an independent country. What's that you say? No, The U.S. hasn't noticed, although it's likely we're simply seen as a mischievous internet club making grandiose claims of sovereignty. But moving along, we need you to assess the medical competence of our King.  What's that? No, really just something about his ability to perform his Organic duties.  No, organic duties doesn't mean like ... natural duties. It means his constitutional duties.  Gross.  Stop asking so many questions.  But yeah, you down? I'm sorry could you repeat that word? Hip-pah? Oh one P... so hip-ah? What's a *bunny ears* hip-ah violation?" 

In other words, this is superfluous, and the only plausible threshold is the CpI conviction, which even then, good luck getting all of the Judges to be active.   
#108
I tend to avoid the Hopper these days, so my apologies for raising these concerns on the eve of clarking.

First, section 6.3, which requires an automatic prima facie (i.e. facial) challenge to the legal sufficiency of the allegations in the charging instrument.  This requires that the tribunal take all allegations as true and determine whether such would establish guilt beyond a reasonable doubt. It does not establish guilt but obligates the Crown to bother to draft a well-pleaded charging instrument.  If the allegations were established as true but would not result in guilt beyond a reasonable doubt, the charging instrument is legally insufficient.  There is nothing that would require briefing or arguments, and the court appears free to set its own procedure. 

Proposed section 6.6 involves preliminary hearings.  As set forth, these involve a hearing before the court to determine if there is probable cause for a felony or serious misdemeanor (sidebar—serious misdemeanor should be defined). This does appear somewhat different in that a defendant can cross-examine witnesses, but to me, there's some degree of evidence or proof involved.

But reconciling the two leaves me scratching my head—6.3 follows the "beyond a reasonable doubt" standard, which is strict.  Generally, it requires that there is no other reasonable explanation from the evidence (or lack thereof)—the jury is basically certain of the defendant's guilt.  66.6, however, has the lower burden of proof of probable cause, which only requires there be a reasonable basis for believing the crime was committed.  This is what loses me—in what scenario would a court that has concluded that the charging instrument alleges conduct that, if true, would establish guilt beyond a reasonable doubt would then turn around and, during a preliminary hearing, resolve that there is no probable cause for the crime? I'm sure there are some very specific circumstances some can muster, but it seems a bit too much procedure for what may come before Talossan courts.

I am not married to 6.3 or 6.6, and I suggest that there may be a way to reconcile the two. 

Second, with regard to section 6.6.6., I am not a fan of the court tinkering with the charging instrument on its own and selecting lesser charges if what is charged does not meet the legal standard.  The court would be doing the Crown's job.  I'd prefer that the charging instrument may include alternative lesser charges from which the court may consider if the primary charge failed. I'd rather place the burden on the Crown to put forth well-pleaded charging instrument than rely on the court to fix the charging instrument.  If the crown does not include a lesser charge (or the wrong one), that's on the crown.

Third, I'd move 6.6.3. below 6.6.6.  It's just a matter of flow in my mind—if a plea may only be entered following the preliminary hearing, then why mention it beforehand.  This is more stylistic I'll concede.

I know this has been up for a while, and my regrets for not commenting sooner. But for some reason I decided to check the Hopper tonight.

-V

(As always, apologies for typos.)
#109
Quote from: Miestră Schivă, UrN on August 31, 2021, 08:56:42 PM
El Lexhatx H.2.1 states as follows:

QuoteAny Member of the Cosă (MC) or Senator may at any time between the First and Last Clark of a Cosă Term, table in "The Ziu" board on Witt, or its equivalent, a "c (PQ)" or "Terp" in a new thread or its equivalent.

Neither El Lex, nor the bill which introduced this language (44RZ1), nor the Hopper thread on 44RZ1, gives any hint what in blue blazes a "c (PQ)" might possibly be. Could Dama Litz herself enlighten us?

Terpelaziun literally means "question in cosa" so my guess is "cosa parliamentary question."  This would track with a proposed EQT statute, https://talossa.proboards.com/thread/4522/act, as well as the original act that appears to only have applied to MCs in Living Cosas (although in practice not so limited). I could be completely off the mark.
#110
Vuode / Re: Provincial bird
August 11, 2021, 08:13:11 PM
Quote from: Tric'hard Lenxheir on August 08, 2021, 02:25:11 PM
I did a little research and it does not appear that we have a provincial bird. I propose that we name the Rufa Red Knot which is an endangered species found within the borders of Vuode along the shore of La Mar Talossan. I would like to put this up for a vote but i am not sure how to put it on the agenda.

Put together an act and put it in the grand session to be debated and voted. You can model it after a national act in the hopper if you like. There's no real rule on how it should look, but it should contain what will become the law if adopted.  There really is little protocol here. But you can help us establish some!

Vuode does not have a single, codified codex of statute like el lexhatx, or the US code. Simply, we have two statutes and a one UPD on the books, we don't need one. So we refer to our statute by the act a la the UK.
#111
Quote from: Viteu on August 04, 2021, 09:54:24 AM
Quote from: Tric'hard Lenxheir on August 04, 2021, 08:04:35 AM
I guess that means i will have to figure out what the premier actually does now, you are putting an awful lot of faith in a very new citizen but if confirmed i will do my best.

Whoe--on-set delirium from sleep deprivation actually resulted in a successful post with minimal typos. Go me!


I got too cocky.  How long we were going to let my motion for Etho to be praising officer go?

Post fixed. I should not type posts from my phone.
#112
Quote from: Tric'hard Lenxheir on August 05, 2021, 05:37:38 PM
Quote from: Viteu on August 03, 2021, 11:01:27 PM
Okay, let's wrap up.

(1) Councillor Tric'hard Lenxheir nominated Éovart Grischun for presiding officer and Viteu Marcianüs as Premier.

(2).Councillor Éovart Grischun nominated Councillor Tric'hard Lenxheir for Premier and Councillor Viteu Marcianus as Presiding Officer.

(3) Viteu Marcianüs nominated Councillor Tric'hard Lenxheir for Premier and Éovart Grischun for presiding officer.

Results:
For Premier--Tric'hard Lenxheir carries support of 2/3 of the chamber (Éovart and Viteu).

For Presiding Officer--Éovart Groschen carries support of 2/3 of the chamber (Viteu and Tric'hard).

The Chamber has spoken. I move the vote be certified.

I second the movement

Well, with two votes, looks like seats are assigned. I will step out of the way for Presiding* Officer Groschen to call the session into order.
#113
Quote from: Tric'hard Lenxheir on August 05, 2021, 05:13:30 PM
Thank you! I have read the constitution and found it very informative but didn't give much in the way of detail (your post helps a lot). At least now i know what sort of responsibilities i have as both premier and as a councilor, I hope to be active once i gain a full working understanding of how things work. I learn better by doing things than i do by reading about them but this helps a lot!

Glad it helped, typos and all! I'm also more of hands-on learner.  You'll do fine.
#114
Quote from: Eðo Grischun on August 04, 2021, 04:21:28 PM
I'll come back to this.  Just posting to let you know I've read the post.

Ugh, typos galore. I made some minor edits.
#115
I began to write this as a summary but went off on a tangent.  I think it's topical for us to discuss. So here it is. 
I invite @Eðo Grischun to comment on my thoughts.   

The most controversial law we have tends to be the Senate National Election Byelaw.  The law's intent stemmed from a concern that non-active citizens were representing Vuode in the Senate, and getting that seat through "pocket votes" without any real activity here or concern for those in the province.  The law was enacted to ensure the Senator was active, available to the people, and chosen by Vuodians. Prior to that, for many terms, the seat was held by a party that did not represent the active members of the province, or seem to have any sustained interest in Talossan life outside of maintaining citizenship to vote for their friends who were active. 

The law is quite simple:

(1) a prospective senator must openly declare their intention to sit as a candidate ten days prior to the end of the last Cosa preceding an election; (2) all votes are public in Vuode's sub-forum; (3) the E-X retains authority to appoint a new Senator within 10 days of vacancy, and if it fails to do so, the premier may do so; and if after 5 days fails to do so, the Crown gets to do so.  This has been criticized by many outside of Vuode. 

From what I know, Eðo does not hate the law but thinks it can be tweaked because there are obvious holes in the law (e.g. an early dissolution of the Cosa).  We debated an amendment, which I think we should revisit, that would address the situation of no candidate declaring their intent to run within the requisite period or a snap election.  But I think, for the most part, we like the law because it really keeps our Senators close to home. It requires them to be at least partially active to national politics, etc.  At least I do.

On the issue of the time window to declare a seat, allow me to offer a different perspective: Vuode's Senate seat will be up for election with the 58th Cosa.  We control our election by way of the Claiming Our Autonomy Byelaw.  According to the National Senate Election Byelaw, a "prospective Senator must openly declare their intention to sit as a candidate for Senate no later than ten (10) days prior to the end of the last Cosâ preceding an election." The idea behind this law was that only people who pay attention to Vuode and elections would represent Vuode--as opposed to the old system where party votes and write-in candidates for non-active citizens meant more than campaigning.  There was a long period when our Senator never posted to Vuode and won by pocket votes.  So we have this. 

This problem, however, has been identified: What happens in a snap election? There is occasional debate to tweak the law appropriately. The failure to enact clarifying language stems from inactivity or forgetfulness, not outright disagreement. On the other hand, it occurs to me that the wording of the statute is a bit more expansive than we thought. We've been operating under a notion that the prospective Senator waits till the last Clark preceding an election, but that's not what the wording says, and it largely has been tactical.  The law says, "no later than 10 days prior to the end of the last Cosa preceding an election."  Given that this is about the Senate, I read it as "no later than 10 days prior to the last Cosa preceding an election involving a Vuode senate seat."  So the earliest a person could declare is literally day one of the last Cosa preceding an election (Clark 1, Day 1 to be exact), and this lasts up to 10 days prior to the last Clark.  I do think there's been some evidence of a candidate waiting until the last possible day to declare their intent to run, so as to not remind others, and secure a seat by default. But, really, all of this is public info and even that tactic serves the law's purpose--to ensure that people are paying attention and our Senators pay attention. So in practice, on Clark 1, Day 1 of the 57th Cosa, Eðo and any other eligible Vuodian may declare their intention to sit as a candidate for the Vuode seat.  Another boon for this is that the electorate can ask questions directly and note when nonresponses are given. The requirement for voting on Witt had more to do with ensuring that active people came on and voted as well as preventing the SOS from applying national law in counting votes. 

Thoughts? Should we proceed with revisiting the amendments? I'm not opposed to a provision in the event of a snap election when no senator has declared, like a special "10-day grace period from the writ of dissolution" but only if we have no candidates.
#116
Quote from: Tric'hard Lenxheir on August 04, 2021, 08:04:35 AM
I guess that means i will have to figure out what the premier actually does now, you are putting an awful lot of faith in a very new citizen but if confirmed i will do my best.

Whoe--on-set delirium from sleep deprivation actually resulted in a successful post with minimal typos. Go me!

Honestly Tric'hard, you're over thinking this. We may be in our 12th Session, but the passing the Claiming Our Authority Byelaw and Senate National Election Byelaw were the pinnacle of activity.  Eðo enacted the UPDs, which have the power of law but can be annulled, although what he enacted is entirely uncontroversial so I cannot imagine why it would be changed.  Unfortunately, we never got around to updating our Wiki and had a digest running on Old Witt, but I just made a new thread with the Digest of Byelaws and Decrees. 

I began to summarize our Senate law and the issues surrounding it, but it became something else, so I'm going to post it elsewhere.

In any event, take a moment to read our Digest of Byelaws and UPDs in https://talossa.proboards.com/thread/13425/reference-digest-byelaws-decrees?page=1&scrollTo=164597.  The Senate law is the most controversial (mostly from outside the province), which I address in another thread.  The UPDs passed by Eðo are entirely uncontroversial. 

Second, I would suggest you take a moment to read our constitution  http://wiki.talossa.com/Constitution_of_Vuode_(text), drafted by Eðo in 2013, with some minor assistance from Sir T and myself, and ratified in 2013.  Vuode fiercely defends this constitution.  It's short, sweet, and allows for a high degree of self-governing for a very small province.  Granted, some of the provisions have become ceremonial in light of practicality, like the Cunstaval swearing in the E-X Councillors or Premier. At this point, it's an implied swearing in.  And I've had to play with the dissolution language for obvious reasons.

So let's iron out a bit of how things work:

The Grand Session is instantly convened and dissolved with the national Ziu--Clark 1, Day 1 of the Ziu = Day 1 of the Grand Session. Writ of dissolution of the Cosa mean end of the Grand Session.  That simple. Whether the Cosa and Senat decide to use a month for administrative purposes is their prerogative. We only care about the clock.  However, we're supposed to have "six" legislative session that mirror the national Ziu, which are convened and conducted by the Presiding Officer. We've never really done this.

Down to responsibilities: the Premier is the head of the government.  They can enact UPDs, which have the power of law but can be repealed with 2/3 majority of the E-X (of course, a future Premier can also repeal the UPD at whim). In the event of a vacant senate seat, the E-X has 10 days to appoint, and if no appointment, the Premier has 5 days, and after that period, it falls to the Crown. That's pretty much it.

The Presiding Officer, on the other hand, convenes and conducts legislative sessions, of which there should be six, and should act in a similar matter to the SOS.  They are responsible for maintaining a Digest of Byelaws. In practice, we generally have one ongoing session and bills can be voted on whenever someone calls a vote. That's about it.

All bills require the Cunstaval to assent, and 30 days of silence is considered silent assent.


So don't over think this. Unofficially, the United Provinces fall somewhere between parliamentary supremacy and constitutional supremacy due to realistic aspects of circumstance.  I'd argue that the real supreme law of the United Provinces is based on convention as informed by civility, fair play, and realistic expectations.  And our convention has been that the more ceremonial/ministerial aspects of the constitution (e.g. swearing in, holding actual sessions) have become implied in practice, but the actual parameters, such as convening sessions, holding seats, voting on laws, passing UPDs, follows the constitution.  One might think of it as substance of style.

But very little gets done at the end of the day, and we always hope that will change.

#117
Vuode / Re: [Reference] Digest of Byelaws & Decrees
August 04, 2021, 08:48:09 AM
PART TWO: UNITED PROVINCES DECREES (UPDs)
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1: The Parishes and Townships Decree
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1.1 - Be it resolved by UNITED PROVINCES DECREE that the parishes comprising the province's cantons are named and bounded as follows:

PARISHES WITHIN VUODE CANTON

The name Pleiv Conâ (Cone Parish) is assigned to the parish whose border follows East Kenwood Boulevard east from its intersection with North Maryland Avenue, then south/southwest along North Lake Drive, then west along East Linnwood Avenue, then north along North Maryland Avenue, which it follows back to East Kenwood Boulevard.

The name Pleiv Madison (Madison Parish) is assigned to the parish whose border follows East Linnwood Avenue east from its intersection with North Maryland Avenue, then south/southwest along North Lake Drive, then west along East Locust Street, then north along North Maryland Avenue, which it follows back to East Linnwood Avenue.

The name Pliev McGarry (McGarry Parish) is assigned to the parish whose border follows East Locust Street east from its intersection with North Maryland Avenue, then south/southwest along North Lake Drive, then west along East Park Place, then north along North Maryland Avenue, which it follows back to East Locust Street.

PARISHES WITHIN DUN CESTOUR CANTON

The name Pleiv Murphy (Murphy Parish) is assigned to the parish whose border follows East Park Place east from its intersection with North Maryland Avenue, then south following the curvature of North Wahl Avenue, then northwest along East Bellview Place, then west along East Bellview Place, then North along North Maryland Avenue, which it follows back to East Park Place.

The name Pleiv von Buchholtz (von Buchholtz Parish) is assigned to the parish whose border follows East Bellview Place from its intersection with North Maryland Avenue, then southeast along East Bellview Place, then southwest along North Wahl Avenue, then northwest along East Bradford Avenue, then north along North Downer Avenue, then west along East Webster Place, then north along North Maryland Avenue, which it follows back to East Bellview Place.

The name Pleiv Rosáis (Rosalez Parish) is assigned to the parish whose border follows East Webster Place west from its intersection with North Maryland Avenue, then south along North Downer Avenue, then southeast along East Bradford Avenue, then southwest along North Wahl Avenue, then southwest along North Terrace Avenue, then northwest along East North Avenue, then cutting directly through the center of the traffic roundabout where the historic water tower is situated before continuing west along East North Avenue to its intersection with North Prospect Avenue, then northeast along North Prospect Avenue to its intersection with North Maryland Avenue, which it follows back to East Webster Place.

ADDITIONALLY Dun Cestour Canton contains a large park area named 'Coronation Park' whose border follows East Kenwood Boulevard east from its intersection with North Lake Drive, when East Kenwood Boulevard terminates at the cul-de-sac continues east through the trees until reaching the Talossan Sea, then following the shore line south and then southwest until in line with East Water Tower Road, then west along the unmarked road at the southern edge of the car park before crossing North Lincoln Memorial Drive onto East Water Tower Road, then following East Water Tower Road in its entirety till it meets North Terrace Avenue, then northeast along North Terrace Avenue, then northeast along North Wahl Avenue following the curvature of North Wahl Avenue to its intersection with North Lake Drive, then north/northwest along North Lake Drive, which it follows back to East Kenwood Boulevard. Coronation Park is not considered a parish.


1.2 - Be it resolved by UNITED PROVINCES DECREE that the Townships comprising the province's Parishes are named and bounded as follows:

In Vuode Canton,

In Cone Parish:

- The Township bordered by East Kenwood Boulevard to the north, North Maryland Avenue to the west, North Farwell Avenue to the east and East Linwood Avenue to the south be named 'Saxony'; and
- The Township bordered by East Kenwood Boulevard to the north, North Farwell Avenue to the west, North Propspect Avenue to the east and East Linwood Avenue to the south be named 'Inkcone'; and
- The Township bordered by East Kenwood Boulevard to the north, North Prospect Avenue to the west, North Stowell Avenue to the east and East Linwood Avenue to the south be named 'West Kenwood'; and
- The Township bordered by East Kenwood Boulevard to the north, North Stowell Avenue to the west, North Downer Avenue to the east and East Linwood Avenue to the south be named 'Capitalview'; and
- The Township bordered by East Kenwood Boulevard to the north, North Downer Avenue to the west, North Hackett Avenue to the east and East Linwood Avenue to the south be named 'North Hackett'; and
- The Township bordered by East Kenwood Boulevard to the north, North Hackett Avenue to the west, North Summit Avenue to the east and East Linwood Avenue to the south be named 'Parliament'; and
- The Township bordered by East Kenwood Boulevard to the north, North Summit Avenue to the west, North Shepard Avenue to the east and East Linwood Avenue to the south be named 'North Shepard'; and
- The Township bordered by East Kenwood Boulevard to the north, North Shepard Avenue to the west, North Marietta Avenue to the east and East Linwood Avenue to the south be named 'East Kenwood'; and
- The Township bordered by East Kenwood Boulevard to the north, North Marietta Avenue to the west, North Lake Drive to the east and East Linwood Avenue to the south be named 'North Coronation'; and

In Madison Parish:

-The Township bordered by East Linwood Avenue to the north, North Maryland Avenue to the west, North Farwell Avenue to the east and East Locust Street to the south be named 'Farwell'; and
- The Township bordered by East Linwood Avenue to the north, North Farwell Avenue to the west, North Prospect Avenue to the east and East Locust Street to the south be named 'Palace'; and
- The Township bordered by East Linwood Avenue to the north, North Prospect Avenue to the west, North Stowell Avenue to the east and East Locust Street to the south be named 'North Stowell'; and
- The Township bordered by East Linwood Avenue to the north, North Stowell Avenue to the west, North Downer Avenue to the east and East Locust Street to the south be named 'West Linwood'; and
- The Township bordered by East Linwood Avenue to the north, North Downer Avenue to the west, North Hackett Avenue to the east and East Locust Street to the south be named 'Mid Hackett'; and
- The Township bordered by East Linwood Avenue to the north, North Hackett Avenue to the west, North Summit Avenue to the east and East Locust Street to the south be named 'East Linwood'; and
- The Township bordered by East Linwood Avenue to the north, North Summit Avenue to the west, North Shepard Avenue to the east and East Locust Street to the south be named 'Mid Shepard'; and
- The Township bordered by East Linwood Avenue to the north, North Shepard Avenue to the west, North Marietta Avenue to the east and East Locust Street to the south be named 'North Marietta'; and
- The Township bordered by East Linwood Avenue to the north, North Marietta Avenue to the west, North Lake Drive to the east and East Locust Street to the south be named 'Mascouten'; and

In McGarry Parish:

- The Township bordered by East Locust Street to the north, North Maryland Avenue to the west, North Farwell Avenue to the east and East Newberry Boulevard to the south be named 'Dandenburg'; and
- The Township bordered by East Locust Street to the north, North Farwell Avenue to the west, North Propspect Avenue to the east and East Newberry Boulevard to the south be named 'Dandenside'; and
- The Township bordered by East Locust Street to the north, North Prospect Avenue to the west, North Stowell Avenue to the east and East Newberry Boulevard to the south be named 'South Stowell'; and
- The Township bordered by East Locust Street to the north, North Stowell Avenue to the west, North Downer Avenue to the east and East Newberry Boulevard to the south be named 'West Locust'; and
- The Township bordered by East Locust Street to the north, North Downer Avenue to the west, North Hackett Avenue to the east and East Newberry Boulevard to the south be named 'South Hackett'; and
- The Township bordered by East Locust Street to the north, North Hackett Avenue to the west, North Summit Avenue to the east and East Newberry Boulevard to the south be named 'East Locust'; and
- The Township bordered by East Locust Street to the north, North Summit Avenue to the west, North Shepard Avenue to the east and East Newberry Boulevard to the south be named 'South Shepard'; and
- The Township bordered by East Locust Street to the north, North Shepard Avenue to the west, North Marietta Avenue to the east and East Newberry Boulevard to the south be named 'South Marietta'; and
- The Township bordered by East Locust Street to the north, North Marietta Avenue to the west, North Lake Drive to the east and East Newberry Boulevard to the south be named 'North Parkgate'; and
- The Township bordered by East Newberry Boulevard to the north, North Maryland Avenue to the west, North Farwell Avenue to the east and East Park Place to the south be named 'Candleview'; and
- The Township bordered by East Newberry Boulevard to the north, North Farwell Avenue to the west, North Propspect Avenue to the east and East Park Place to the south be named 'West Newberry'; and
- The Township bordered by East Newberry Boulevard to the north, North Prospect Avenue to the west, North Stowell Avenue to the east and East Park Place to the south be named 'Fultonview'; and
- The Township bordered by East Newberry Boulevard to the north, North Stowell Avenue to the west, North Downer Avenue to the east and East Park Place to the south be named 'Manorview'; and
- The Township bordered by East Newberry Boulevard to the north, North Downer Avenue to the west, North Hackett Avenue to the east and East Park Place to the south be named 'Hollandview'; and
- The Township bordered by East Newberry Boulevard to the north, North Hackett Avenue to the west, North Summit Avenue to the east and East Park Place to the south be named 'Churchview'; and
- The Township bordered by East Newberry Boulevard to the north, North Summit Avenue to the west, North Shepard Avenue to the east and East Park Place to the south be named 'East Newberry'; and
- The Township bordered by East Newberry Boulevard to the north, North Shepard Avenue to the west, North Lake Drive to the east and East Park Place to the south be named 'South Parkgate'; and

In Dun Cestour Canton,

In Murphy Parish:

- The Township bordered by East Park Place to the north, North Maryland Avenue to the west, North Farwell Avenue to the east and East Bellview Place to the south be named 'Candlelight'; and
- The Township bordered by East Park Place to the north, North Farwell Avenue to the west, North Prospect Avenue to the east and East Bellview Place to the south be named 'New Westminster'; and
- The Township bordered by East Park Place to the north, North Prospect Avenue to the west, North Stowell Avenue to the east and East Bellview Place to the south be named 'Fulton'; and
- The Township bordered by East Park Place to the north, North Stowell Avenue to the west, North Downer Avenue to the east and East Bellview Place to the south be named 'Manor'; and
- The Township with a border following East Park Place east from its intersection with North Downer Avenue, then southwest along North Hackett Avenue, then north along North Downer Avenue, which it follows back to East Park Place be named 'Hollander'; and
- The Township with a border following East Park Place east from its intersection with North Hackett Avenue, then southwest along North Summit Avenue, then northwest along East Belleview Place, then northeast along North Hackett Avenue, which it follows back to East Park Place be named 'Churchtown'; and
- The Township with a border following East Park Place east from its intersection with North Summit Avenue, then southwest along North Lake Drive, then northwest along East Belleview Place, then northeast along North Summit Avenue, which it follows back to East Park Place be named 'North Summit'; and
- The Township with a border following North Wahl Avenue southeast from its intersection with North Lake Drive, then southwest along North Terrace Avenue, then northwest along East Belleview Place, then northeast along North Lake Drive, which it follows back to North Wahl Avenue be named 'Golfview'; and
- The Township with a border following East Belleview Place northwest from its intersection with North Wahl Avenue, then northeast along North Terrace Avenue, then south along North Wahl Avenue, which it follows back to East Belleview Place be named 'North Wahl'; and

In von Buchholtz Parish:

- The Township bordered by East Belleview Place to the north, North Maryland Avenue to the west, North Farwell Avenue to the east and East Webster Place to the south be named 'Marybelle'; and
- The Township bordered by East Belleview Place to the north, North Farwell Avenue to the west, North Prospect Avenue to the east and East Webster Place to the south be named 'West Belleview'; and
- The Township bordered by East Belleview Place to the north, North Prospect Avenue to the west, North Stowell Avenue to the east and East Webster Place to the south be named 'East Belleview'; and
- The Township bordered by East Belleview Place to the north, North Stowell Avenue to the west, North Downer Avenue to the east and East Webster Place to the south be named 'Napoleon'; and
- The Township with a border following East Belleview Place southeast from its intersection with North Downer Avenue, then southwest along North Summit Avenue, then north along North Downer Avenue, which it follows back to East Belleview Place be named 'Bank'; and
- The Township with a border following East Belleview Place southeast from its intersection with North Summit Avenue, then southwest along North Terrace Avenue, then northwest along East Bradford Avenue, then north along North Downer Avenue, then northeast along North Summit Avenue, which it follows back to East Belleview Place be named 'South Summit'; and
- The Township with a border following East Belleview Place southeast from its intersection with North Lake Drive, then southwest along North Lake Drive, then northwest along East Bradford Avenue, then northeast along North Lake Drive, which it follows back to East Belleview Place be named 'Carlyle'; and
- The Township with a border following East Belleview Place southeast from its intersection with North Terrace Avenue, then southwest along North Wahl Avenue, then northwest along East Bradford Avenue, then northeast along North Terrace Avenue, which it follows back to East Belleview Place be named 'South Wahl'; and

In Rosalez Parish:

- The Township bordered by East Webster Place to the north, North Maryland Avenue to the west, North Farwell Avenue to the east and East Bradford Avenue to the south be named 'Chateau'; and
- The Township bordered by East Webster Place to the north, North Farwell Avenue to the west, North Prospect Avenue to the east and East Bradford Avenue to the south be named 'Bradford'; and
- The Township bordered by East Webster Place to the north, North Prospect Avenue to the west, North Stowell Avenue to the east and East Bradford Avenue to the south be named 'Broadmoor'; and
- The Township bordered by East Webster Place to the north, North Stowell Avenue to the west, North Downer Avenue to the east and East Bradford Avenue to the south be named 'Downer'; and
- The Township with a border following East Bradford Avenue east from its intersection with North Maryland Avenue, then southwest along North Farwell Avenue, then north along North Maryland Avenue, which it follows back to East Bradford Avenue be named 'Benitoview Park'; and
- The Township that lies in the middle of the intersection of North Prospect Avenue and East Bradford Avenue be named 'Bradford Park'; and
- The Township with a border following East Bradford Avenue east from its intersection with North Farwell Avenue, then southwest along North Prospect Avenue, then north along North Maryland Avenue, then northeast along North Farwell Avenue, which it follows back to East Bradford Avenue be named 'New Maryland'; and
- The Township with a border following North Prospect Avenue northeast from its southern intersection with Bradford Place to its northern intersection with Bradford Place, then following Bradford Place in a semi-circular fashion, which it follows back to North Prospect Avenue be named 'Columbia Park'; and
- The Township with a border following East Bradford Avenue southeast from its intersection with North Downer Avenue, then southwest along North Lake Drive, then north along North Downer Avenue, which it follows back to East Bradford Avenue be named 'Dun Cestour Park'; and
- The Township with a border following East Bradford Avenue east from its intersection with North Prospect Avenue, then south along North Downer Avenue, then southwest along North Lake Drive, then west along East North Avenue, then northeast along North Prospect Avenue to its southern intersection with Bradford Place, then following Bradford Place in a semi-circular fashion to its northern intersection with North Prospect Avenue, then northeast along North Prospect Avenue, which it follows back to East Bradford Avenue be named 'West Columbia Saint Mary'; and
- The Township with a border following East Bradford Avenue southeast from its intersection with North Lake Drive, then southwest along North Terrace Avenue, then skirting around the northern side of the traffic roundabout on East North Avenue, then northeast along North Lake Drive, which it follows back to East Bradford Avenue be named 'East Columbia Saint Mary'; and
- The Township that lies within the traffic roundabout on East North Avenue at its intersection with North Terrace Avenue, which takes in exactly half of the roundabout by drawing a straight line southeast from the mouth of East North Avenue to the mouth of North Terrace Avenue be named 'Halfwater'; and
- The Township with a border following East Bradford Avenue southeast from its intersection with North Terrace Avenue, then southwest along North Wahl Avenue, then northeast along North Terrace Avenue, which it follows back to East Bradford Avenue be named 'South Coronation'; and

In Coronation Park:

- The Township with a border following North Lincoln Memorial Drive east/southeast from its intersection with North Lake Drive, then south along North Lake Park Road, then west along East Newberry Boulevard, then North along North Lake Drive, which it follows back to North Lincoln Memorial Drive be named 'Vuode Wood (West)'; and
- The Township with a border following North Lincoln Memorial Drive southeast from its intersection with North Lake Park Road, then west along East Ravine Road, then North Lake Park Road back to North Lincoln Memorial Drive be named 'Vuode Wood (East)'; and
- The Township bordered by North Lincoln Memorial Drive to the west, the Talossan Sea to the east, the province of Ataturk to the North and the province of Maritiimi-Maxhestic to the south be named 'Vuode Beach'; and
- The Township bordered by North Lake Drive and North Wahl Avenue to the west, North Lincoln Memorial Drive to the east, East Ravine Road to the North and East Water Tower to the south be named 'Great Plain'.
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Vuode / [Reference] Digest of Byelaws & Decrees
August 04, 2021, 08:47:59 AM
The Wiki Page for the United Provinces has not been updated in some time to reflect our Digest of Byelaws and Decrees, and we had created a thread for this purpose on old Witt. I am taking a moment to move some of those over.

Digest of
Provincial Byelaws
OF THE
UNITED PROVINCES
OF
VUODE AND DANDENBURG

Table of Contents

PART ONE: Provincial Byelaws
1: The Claiming Our Autonomy Byelaw
2: The National Senate Election Byelaw

PART TWO:  United Provinces Decrees (UPDs)
1: The Parishes and Townships Decree


PART ONE: Provincial Byelaws


1: The Claiming Our Autonomy Byelaw

1.1 - The Estats Xhenerais, as authorized under articles III and IV of the Constitution of the United Provinces of Vuode and Dandenburg, RESOLVES to hereby invoke its right under Section 7 of Article IV of the Organic Law of the Kingdom of Talossa and rescinds any prior grants of permission for the Chancery to conduct its Senatorial elections.


2: The National Senate Election ByeLaw

2.1 - A prospective Senator must openly declare their intention to sit as a candidate for Senate no later than ten (10) days prior to the end of the last Cosâ preceding an election.

2.2 - All votes must be publicly recorded through a post on the established national forum known as Wittenburg within Vuode's sub-forum prior to the close of the national election, and no votes made elsewhere shall be recorded or counted.

2.3 - Notwithstanding any national law to the contrary, in the event a sitting Senator vacates his or her seat, the Estats Xehenerais shall immediately vote to appoint a new Senator.  In the event the Estats Xhenerais fails to vote to appoint a new Senator within 10 days of a vacancy occurring, then the Premier of the province shall have the emergency power to immediately make such appointment sans vote; if a further 5 days pass without an appointment being made then the emergency power to appoint shall fall to the Crown.

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Okay, let's wrap up.

(1) Councillor Tric'hard Lenxheir nominated Éovart Grischun for presiding officer and Viteu Marcianüs as Premier.

(2).Councillor Éovart Grischun nominated Councillor Tric'hard Lenxheir for Premier and Councillor Viteu Marcianus as Presiding Officer.

(3) Viteu Marcianüs nominated Councillor Tric'hard Lenxheir for Premier and Éovart Grischun for presiding officer.

Results:
For Premier--Tric'hard Lenxheir carries support of 2/3 of the chamber (Éovart and Viteu).

For Presiding* Officer--Éovart Groschen carriea support of 2/3 of the chamber (Viteu and Tric'hard).

The Chamber has spoken. I move the vote be certified. 
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I nominate Councillor Tric'hard Lenxheir for Premier and Éovart Grischun for presiding officer