Quote from: Miestră Schivă, UrN on May 15, 2023, 10:56:13 PM

Quote from: Baron Alexandreu Davinescu on May 15, 2023, 10:52:22 PMthe screenshot shared seems to show a pretty damning conversation where Dama Miestra and Viteu discuss the possibility and plan how to address it without stirring any scrutiny.

There was no conversation. Judge V posted that on his Facebook page, after he had already quit the Free Democrats. He had never discussed the issue with me, or anyone I have ever heard of, before. I did not reply but simply reposted it to the Free Democrats group so they knew of his current state of mind.

I'm really fed up, Alex, about how you can't read or hear of anything involving me without leaping to the conclusion that I've done something corrupt and wicked.

I guess I'm very confused, then.  The screenshot Viteu posted looks like a back-and-forth conversation from Messenger. 

He messages someone -- I thought it was you, but you're not mentioned by name, so maybe it's someone else? -- to tell them he thinks the OrgLaw amendment didn't pass.  Since it amended the Covenants, it required the higher threshold to pass, and Viteu thinks it didn't make it.  The other person disagrees with Viteu.  They discuss how it would be hard to pass a completely new OrgLaw.  Then they say that the best way to handle the situation is just to address the accidental Convenant change by itself.

It's not the worse thing in the world, but it definitely doesn't look good.  But on the other hand, you're being very forceful in your denial, so now I don't know what to think.

Incidentally, while this is a pretty dire look into the ethics of some folks, and an interesting legal question, I don't think there's any practical concern here.  Someone should just hopper something to re-affirm the OrgLaw as it stands and irrespective of other amendments, just in case.  Unless someone files a suit to overturn stuff based on this revelation, I don't think the OrgLaw's going to get overturned.

Goodness.

It goes without saying that there seems to have been some shameful behavior here.  Apparently some civic leaders thought that the Organic Law was illegally amended on a broad scale, and decided to say nothing.  It is possible that this stuff was taken out of context, but the screenshot shared seems to show a pretty damning conversation where Dama Miestra and Viteu discuss the possibility and plan how to address it without stirring any scrutiny.

Maybe there's more context here?  It's possible the very next page of the conversation has Dama Miestra saying that she's sure that everything is on the up-and-up.  I hope so.

This is all the worse because I'm genuinely unsure what the answer is, here.  Usually you don't count abstentions against a 2/3 requirement's denominator, since an abstention is treated the same as not voting (even though it functionally indicates your presence at the vote).  But that's not the case if the requirement is something like 2/3 of "all voters present" or "all members at the vote," which does count increase the denominator.  And the language here is "two-thirds majority of voters participating in the referendum on the question of the amendment."  It seems to indicate it's talking about all who voted in whatever way, but also an abstention is considered not to be participating in a vote!  And I'm not sure there's any precedent either way with this specific language.

Here is a link to the last time this onerous chore was performed.

https://talossa.proboards.com/thread/11386/convening-court-chivalry

-Dean

There is precedent for this. @Sir Txec dal Nordselvă, UrB , I believe you are the most active senior member. Maybe it would be appropriate to follow your lead? I have located the last time we did this, years ago, if the specifics would help.

-Dean

Crossover episode!

Quote from: Miestră Schivă, UrN on May 11, 2023, 04:30:30 PMCan I just say that I am surprised and delighted that the new Government has not abolished the Civics Test like they said they were going to. Not that it matters, but I'm wondering why the change of heart?

Hm.  I am a deputy leader of the party, and I am not aware of such a promise.  Could you show me where that was said?

Your application is received, grats.

It has been a while since we assigned anything to the Well-Met Fellow.  @C.d.I. Nouacastra-Läxhirescu, MSC , would you like to take this one?

-Dean of the College

@Sir Txec dal Nordselvă, UrB , can you sticky this and unsticky the other one, please?

Quote from: Üc R. Tärfă on May 10, 2023, 08:39:28 AMAt least the citizen number should be added imho

We are going to (I believe, pending the Seneschal's decision) going to be using province/current year/citizen number/issue number as the number on the cards -- so you're getting your wish! :)

Done!

Fun fact: this was the design back in 2016, when we first issued cards.  I don't remember who made the design, but boy is it different!

Quote from: Sir Txec dal Nordselvă, UrB on May 11, 2023, 10:14:47 AMWhen you get time, please forward me the application as I took and passed the test some time back.

Thank you!

Done!  Thank you for being a guinea pig for the new system!

If you already passed the test and were just waiting to get a card, please just let me know so I can send you the application form again without needing to go through the test.

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