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Wittenberg / Re: LCC Leadership Election (+ Recruitment Thread)
« on: April 15, 2021, 05:34:35 AM »
...Had the lifetime monarchy won out convincingly, the Compromise never would have existed.  This is not what happened.  As with Brexit in the United Kingdom, and even more than with Brexit, the people gave themselves a split-decision.  Brexit was 52-48.  The monarchy referendum of 2020 was much closer. 
As an aside: Brexit is a ****ing disaster. Total ****ing disaster  :( :( :(

Wittenberg / Re: Talossan Language Learners' Thread
« on: April 15, 2021, 05:14:41 AM »
5. If the Talossan language is not worked on, Talossa dies.  Period.
No, not "Period" but "Question Mark".  In England eleven hundred years ago there was no English language. There were, instead, a number of imported, and local, languages used in particular areas. Then "William The Bastard" (... that's what he was called in France: we now call him William the Conquerer) came over and imposed French as the courtly language, and language of administration.

That did not work, as "the people" were not going to drop the way they had been speaking for centuries. BUT French words and terms were added to the local languages, and because of more safe movement around the island the local languages and dialects influenced each other more and more... and English evolved (slowly) towards what it is now. All the time England, as a concept, continued to exist. England existed before English.

Now in England we have I don't know how many languages spoken: in most but not all places English is the main form of communication - for example, in parts of London you have to use Chinese, in West London you use Bengali or or Punjabi, in north London it may well be Yiddish or Turkish. In many places we use dialects of English which I, personally, find unintelligible - and I've lived here for well over seventy years.

But England is still England.  England is bigger than English.

And Talossa is bigger than the Talossan language.


Christ, is this you trying to build a consensus? I hear honey attacks more Bees then salt.

Some of us, here in Talossa, keep bees in other lands. Any citizen who visits me personally shall, henceforth, be offered a jar of my very locally produced honey - from the beehives in my garden.  :)

Treason is an offence against the state itself ("high treason") and not internal violent dissent ("petty treason").  Most nations have dropped the concept of "petty treason" and use "treason" to mean "high treason" - which is what, I presume, we do (and shall do) here in Talossa. For that particular Crime Repugnant to Talossanity I think we have no need for the Justices to be involved in contentious deliberation: the answers to "Is this person trying to kill the monarch?" and "Is this person supporting external war against Talossa?" make the question "Is this (potentially) treason?" a clear one.

I do indeed intend to retain my position as Lord Warden.

Outside of this noble nation I personally am, in body, rather unwell - which explains much of my absence. But be assured that my wish - my strong wish - is to be an active citizen and functionary within Talossa. And it is only my body, not my mind, that is affected by illness.

I am still here, and I shall be more visible.

55RZ18 - Për

Cézembre / Re: l'Etats Session 2: Atenziun 13-20 Januar
« on: January 18, 2021, 11:58:21 AM »
I also vote PER on this proposal.

At some point in the future - for discussion elsewhere, elsewhen - perhaps we could change twenty-one to eighteen? And also fix the wording of change-of-address inserting "without notification to Talossa" (or something like that).

Cézembre / Re: Restaurant open on Cézembre
« on: January 12, 2021, 09:52:15 AM »
If there is any meeting there, then all French-speaking Talossans should be present!  Obviously, there will be some expenses... (New Zealand to Paris... hmmm)

The Lobby / Re: Committee of Legal Reforms
« on: January 12, 2021, 09:06:07 AM »
As far as I know - and. of course, things may have changed since I last looked - Talossan Law refers back to Wisconsin law only in a very few places, and is NOT (in general) dependant upon that law.  Wisconsin law is *not* (explicity) the background for Talossan Law, except in those few cases. I did point out that two 18-year old same-gender Talossan intimate friends having a glass of wine on the island of Cezembre were breaking lots of Wisconsin laws - but no French laws.  I would *strongly* suggest that *all* references to the laws of all non-Talossan states be removed from our Talossan Laws. And, moreover, I would suggest that Talossan Law should concern itself only with (a) matters concerning personal freedom and rights, and (b) matters relating to internationally and universally recognised aspects of morality, and (c ) matters concerning Talossa directly.
This suggestion would mean that, for example, Talossa should *not* concern itself with who can marry whom, or the voltage and frequency of electricity supply, or way in which voting must be performed in any non-Talossa state. But it *would* be concerned with, for example, (Talossan) theft, and (all) murder, and (all) actions of impinging upon liberty or right-to-respond, and (Talossan) dishonesty and improper behaviour.
Except for the International Declaration of Human Rights, Talossa need not, and *must not* depend upon the laws of any other state.

The Senate / Re: Shall we do a virtual Living Senäts?
« on: January 02, 2021, 09:32:48 AM »
If it is not explicitly illegal, then it is legal.  If there is a (real, not imaginary) doubt then we conduct no official business, but "merely" get to know each other better.

Yes - it seems like a good idea.... though we might end up having more title than name to our signature!  ;)

Wittenberg / Re: Legal Issues Not Directed at Anyone in Particular
« on: October 14, 2020, 04:19:59 PM »
Gentlemen, let us not shout.

Einstein had numerous extra-marital sexual relationships. Isaac Newton was a jealous liar. Beethoven was unspeakably rude. None of those facts have any relevance to Relativity or Gravity or The Ninth Symphony. When we discuss the equations of General Relativity the moral status of their first proponent is utterly irrelevant, and scientists know this.

Similarly with laws. The persons suggesting those laws, the other actions of those persons, their rudeness or politeness or lust or sloth are in no way relevant: all that is relevant is the wording of the laws themselves. Even the intent of those laws is irrelevant - unless that intent is explicitly mentioned in those (or other) laws as part of the law itself, and not its preamble.

Debate like "You did this" "No I didn't - you got in the way" "You don't know what you're talking about" "Oh yeah? Look at such-and-such - you're incompetent" "Yah, boo, sucks" "I'm not playing your game"....  This, fellow citizens, is not worthy of us.

I would like to make the following suggestion. When we discuss past or future legislation let us be neutral - alway neutral - about who framed those laws. Let us not, in any way, comment upon those persons - even more especially if they are party to the discussion itself.  Let us remove personality from our formal discussions. Let us not say, for example, "you got this wrong in the past - you fool!", but rather "I believe that we should, in this instance, take such-and-such an action".

Well-framed laws are rather dull reading - intentionally so. Have you ever read, in full, one of those long, long software licence agreements? These do not say "if you do such-and-such you are evil and will be tortured in Hell for eternity", rather they say "such-and-such is part of this agreement between us: if this is breached then thus-and-thus will be instigated, without prejudice, governed by the laws of <national state> within whose area this contract shall be deemed to be issued"  - much more dull, but much more precise. And well-framed laws are rather dull to write, too - and need to be phrased with the same kind of precision as a computer program. (I have often thought that Legal Latin and Legislative English were precursors to Cobol, Java and HTML!).

Good parliamentary debate (certainly here, in the UK) consists of stating what the consequence of this or that clause might be, or has been, and whether this or that is consistent with such-and-such. Yes, we do, in our "Mother of Parliaments" shout at each other - but we are explicitly forbidden to make personal comments about other members of the legislature. You can say "X is mistaken about Y", but you can not say "X is lying" (and especially not "you are lying") - even though that might be what you are thinking.

I am, as I think I have said before, a scientist, and I try to use scientific reasoning at all times - tempered with an unswerving acceptance of Human Rights and Justice (both of which stand above our laws - and all other laws, too). I would urge the rest of us to do likewise.

And let us remember that many words are not always useful words. What is truly worth saying can be said succinctly.

Wittenberg / Re: Can an Absent Ruler Still Be a Ruler?
« on: September 26, 2020, 09:35:42 AM »
My answer to the question posed by this thread is ..

NO an Absent Ruler is not a Ruler

Let us deal with it, let us act...
...let us act soon.

John - you are a nice guy. Your Majesty, in your office you are incompetent.


Cézembre / Re: Return to Cezambre
« on: July 31, 2020, 04:55:47 PM »
I would love to have the opportunity of visiting my home province! Although I am very, very remis in not speaking our language, I do speak French - which we will need in order to get a coffee and croissant at the beach cafe. Keep me informed, and I look forward to waving my walking stick at the puny barriers that try to limit our nation.  ;)

Wittenberg / Re: August 2020 General Election - Polling Station Open
« on: July 23, 2020, 05:05:09 PM »
My votes for August 2020 Election:


54RZ16 Per
54RZ22 Per
54RZ23 Per
54RZ25 Per
54EZ28 Per

Ian Tamoran for Senats Cezembre

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