Quote from: Breneir Tzaracomprada on Yesterday at 06:27:02 PM

Quote from: Baron Alexandreu Davinescu on Yesterday at 04:37:38 PMAs much as possible, we need to begin expanding the ways in which we interact with each other. We have to move beyond words on a screen and start seeing each other's faces. This will help bridge gaps as we begin to see each other's common humanity.

:) Straight from a Green Party mailer. I am pleased.

I get credit since I made this exact argument in last year's Independence Day Speech!

-Txec R

Quote from: Breneir Tzaracomprada on Yesterday at 06:27:02 PM

Quote from: Baron Alexandreu Davinescu on Yesterday at 04:37:38 PMAs much as possible, we need to begin expanding the ways in which we interact with each other. We have to move beyond words on a screen and start seeing each other's faces. This will help bridge gaps as we begin to see each other's common humanity.

:) Straight from a Green Party mailer. I am pleased.

Yay!!! I love meeting people (even though most of them are shady these days, not you guys though)!

Quote from: Baron Alexandreu Davinescu on Yesterday at 04:37:38 PMAs much as possible, we need to begin expanding the ways in which we interact with each other. We have to move beyond words on a screen and start seeing each other's faces. This will help bridge gaps as we begin to see each other's common humanity.

:) Straight from a Green Party mailer. I am pleased.

Quote from: Marcel Eðo Pairescu Tafial, UrGP on Yesterday at 06:26:07 PM

Quote from: Mximo Malt on Yesterday at 06:20:59 PMI believe the point RBM was trying to make is that Talossan was only well-known by people in Talossa, not necessarily that Talossan was "forbidden" from being spoken outside Talossa.

No, that was exactly the argument he was making. Namely, that people who are not already citizens need some sort of permission to be able to learn and speak Talossan, lest they commit plagiarism and copyright infringement. You can read that in the links I posted as source.

Va c'hupă, S:reu Tafial! Point aside, I'm not sure there's much he can do about it now since we all speak it without his consent 🤣

Maybe he'll be happy that we're still using it and take it as the greatest form of national pride! That's how I see our Glheþ, as an expression of our Talossan identity!

Quote from: Mximo Malt on Yesterday at 06:20:59 PMI believe the point RBM was trying to make is that Talossan was only well-known by people in Talossa, not necessarily that Talossan was "forbidden" from being spoken outside Talossa.

No, that was exactly the argument he was making. Namely, that people who are not already citizens need some sort of permission to be able to learn and speak Talossan, lest they commit plagiarism and copyright infringement. You can read that in the links I posted as source.

Quote from: Sir Lüc on Yesterday at 06:11:48 PMI think it would be great to hold these regularly. One other thing I would like to point out is that discussing bills that are not on the Clark is not in order during a normal Living Cosă, but logically that doesn't apply in a more informal setting, so it could be interesting to have people get the chance to talk up their Hoppered bill for a few minutes face-to-face.

(Edit: Of course it would also be worth discussing if we should just do away with the current Living Cosăs and turn these informal sessions into a new kind of Living Cosă that is more flexible, less constrained and not as bound to being a weird simulacrum of the old in-person thing, for better or for worse.)

Living Cosăs are goated 😎

Quote from: Miestră Schivă, UrN-GC on Yesterday at 06:12:05 PMThe quot

Quote from: Marcel Eðo Pairescu Tafial, UrGP on Yesterday at 06:07:33 PMeven in that sense, reducing the language to just a means of promotion is, in my opinion as a language nerd, doing it a massive disservice. And I also understand Sir Tomás' upset: I, too, wouldn't like to be told that I've spend literal years of my life studying and advancing a promotional tool.

The quote I remember from the time was Ben quoting from some fact-sheet he wrote in 1981 saying "Talossan is only spoken by inhabitants of Talossa", and using that as an argument suggesting that it was impermissible for anyone else, i.e. me, to learn or speak it.

This is language submitted to political/state objectives and I consider it improper, like Russia trying to eliminate the Ukrainian language in occupied Donetsk.

Respectfully, Madame Schivă, I believe the point RBM was trying to make is that Talossan was only well-known by people in Talossa, not necessarily that Talossan was "forbidden" from being spoken outside Talossa. It kinda sounds like you're not allowed to speak Hebrew outside of "Israel", well, לא יש לי בושה להיות דובר אחד של השפה עברית!

The quot

Quote from: Marcel Eðo Pairescu Tafial, UrGP on Yesterday at 06:07:33 PMeven in that sense, reducing the language to just a means of promotion is, in my opinion as a language nerd, doing it a massive disservice. And I also understand Sir Tomás' upset: I, too, wouldn't like to be told that I've spend literal years of my life studying and advancing a promotional tool.

The quote I remember from the time was Ben quoting from some fact-sheet he wrote in 1981 saying "Talossan is only spoken by inhabitants of Talossa", and using that as an argument suggesting that it was impermissible for anyone else, i.e. me, to learn or speak it.

This is language submitted to political/state objectives and I consider it improper, like Russia trying to eliminate the Ukrainian language in occupied Donetsk.

I think it would be great to hold these regularly. One other thing I would like to point out is that discussing bills that are not on the Clark is not in order during a normal Living Cosă, but logically that doesn't apply in a more informal setting, so it could be interesting to have people get the chance to talk up their Hoppered bill for a few minutes face-to-face.

(Edit: Of course it would also be worth discussing if we should just do away with the current Living Cosăs and turn these informal sessions into a new kind of Living Cosă that is more flexible, less constrained and not as bound to being a weird simulacrum of the old in-person thing, for better or for worse.)

Quote from: Marcel Eðo Pairescu Tafial, UrGP on Yesterday at 06:07:33 PM

Quote from: Xheralt Del'Encradeir on Yesterday at 05:29:53 PM"Promotion" is a slippery concept, especially in the commercialized internet age.  Using Talossan for promotion was a feature to mention, in order to to attract other language nerds, to say "hey look, we have something other micronations don't!", promotion in that sense.

Right, I understand that. But even in that sense, reducing the language to just a means of promotion is, in my opinion as a language nerd, doing it a massive disservice. And I also understand Sir Tomás' upset: I, too, wouldn't like to be told that I've spend literal years of my life studying and advancing a promotional tool.

I understand it's a constructed language in reality, but it feels like a real historical language, it's amazing!