Quote from: Sir Lüc on July 16, 2025, 02:10:53 PMSo done.

Thank you!

So done.

@Sir Lüc

Hello Mr. Secretary, when possible, would you please move this to the CRL?

Quote from: Breneir Tzaracomprada on July 15, 2025, 08:21:54 PMI applaud this call, Pol. I need to say I really like your new avatar! I have been urging people to show their faces here to humanize one another beyond the words we see so it is nice to see another face here. I need to give more thought to create an extended answer to your call.

Fair enough. I look forward to a better working relationship for an extraordinary cause. This royal commission should be nonpartisan. As trusted leaders we can set an example for future posterity.

Quote from: Dr. Pôl dal Nordselvă on July 15, 2025, 07:33:57 PMNow this is actual discussion of merit and looking at solutions rather than assign blame. There is enough blame to go around and it isnt helpful or even necessary to dwell upon past mistakes. Rather those errors should be used to point toward a solution. Taking a holistic view is required and something those here are desirous of.

I love Talossa and what it stands for. It allows me the freedom to express myself and be my true self without consequence or undesired effects elsewhere. I am in reality a person of deep conviction and thought and not impulsive in action. Making change is difficult and requires strength of character that is sadly lacking in many people of this age. Critical thinking is no longer a desired skill but an overlooked and dated concept. Most would rather move with the flow, staying inside their own echo chambers. We can be, and should be, different.

Nobody here is a fool. The rhetoric can get quite heated but at the end of the day we all want the same thing. We all want to see Talossa thrive! We all want to see Talossa shine! We are Talossan's!

We are Talossan's!

I make a call to all of us to step out of our typical corners, join hands, put aside needless animosity, and be the ideal we want. To be the CHANGE we want. If I offended anybody let me be the first to apologize. @Baron Alexandreu Davinescu, @Breneir Tzaracomprada, @Miestră Schivă, UrN-GC, @King Txec.  I want to link arms with all of you and make this Talossan ideal a Talossan reality!

I applaud this call, Pol. I need to say I really like your new avatar! I have been urging people to show their faces here to humanize one another beyond the words we see so it is nice to see another face here. I need to give more thought to create an extended answer to your call.

I personally have been unsuccessful in what I think would be the most effective way to increase the number of Talossans. Perhaps I need some assistance with an elevator pitch or a better way of using the wiki or other resources to inform those I think would have interest.

The simple idea is "+1"

Each citizen would endeavor to identify one person that they already know from other spheres of activity, that they believe would have interest in becoming an active citizen. 

I think if we had at least a third of our current citizens make this attempt, and if a third of those influenced by a specific person they know became active citizens by the end of calendar year 2025, that would constitute significant growth.

Certainly there be no restriction on others who stumble upon or otherwise land on the pier, and they should be supported as much as possible.  However, a personal connection to people through other hobbies, interests, education, work, etc. has potential.

Now this is actual discussion of merit and looking at solutions rather than assign blame. There is enough blame to go around and it isnt helpful or even necessary to dwell upon past mistakes. Rather those errors should be used to point toward a solution. Taking a holistic view is required and something those here are desirous of.

I love Talossa and what it stands for. It allows me the freedom to express myself and be my true self without consequence or undesired effects elsewhere. I am in reality a person of deep conviction and thought and not impulsive in action. Making change is difficult and requires strength of character that is sadly lacking in many people of this age. Critical thinking is no longer a desired skill but an overlooked and dated concept. Most would rather move with the flow, staying inside their own echo chambers. We can be, and should be, different.

Nobody here is a fool. The rhetoric can get quite heated but at the end of the day we all want the same thing. We all want to see Talossa thrive! We all want to see Talossa shine! We are Talossan's!

We are Talossan's!

I make a call to all of us to step out of our typical corners, join hands, put aside needless animosity, and be the ideal we want. To be the CHANGE we want. If I offended anybody let me be the first to apologize. @Baron Alexandreu Davinescu, @Breneir Tzaracomprada, @Miestră Schivă, UrN-GC, @King Txec.  I want to link arms with all of you and make this Talossan ideal a Talossan reality!

Quote from: Dr. Pôl dal Nordselvă on July 15, 2025, 06:29:06 PMI will take that as your conceding the point of discussion. My only accusation is that somebody always tries to stifle the debate rather than actually respond in a meaningful and constructive way.

I am not "conceding" when I suggest that a heated partisan debate about blame will undermine the bipartisan commission to suggest solutions.

I am serious about actually addressing this issue.  There is a time and place for campaigning, and I don't think the people will buy the Government's spin on this issue.  But with respect to this effort, I am going to try to engage in the spirit which I think is going to actually help matters.

Quote from: Mic'haglh Autófil, O.Be on July 15, 2025, 06:42:09 PMwe've also seen multiple citizens from the "uptick" during the 58th Cosa already lapse out

The thing about the "uptick" during the 58th Cosa was that most of those people joined the Government party straight out of the immigration queue, something which attracted comment at the time.

King Robert I always used to say that joining his Progressive Conservative Party proved that new citizens were ready to participate fully in mainstream Talossan society. Obviously that's authoritarian partisan nonsense, but maybe the current Government parties are just not enthusiastic enough about getting new citizens signed up to vote for us.

Quote from: Dr. Pôl dal Nordselvă on July 15, 2025, 05:53:39 PMCan somebody please answer this question. Why is immigration the largest concern of some parties?

Despite what some may argue, it is in fact a concern of all parties. Unlike some micronations, Talossa prunes its citizen rolls of citizens who have not voted or responded to a national census in the last two years. Since activity is what keeps micronations going, and citizens are needed for activity, immigration is needed to keep things fresh and replace those who allow their citizenship to lapse (or renounce if they get harassed out, like ESB or Braneu the first time).

QuoteHow many actual people immigrate monthly? I see numbers thrown around that in reality mean nothing.

According to Infoteca (effectively a tracking spreadsheet maintained by the Government), the average month sees anywhere from 0-2 naturalizations.

QuoteHow many recent immigrants actually stayed around and got involved?

That's the big question. Most immigrants in recent years (at least since I've immigrated, which was in 2022) seem to stay quieter. You get a few who jump right in, but we've also seen multiple citizens from the "uptick" during the 58th Cosa already lapse out with like five more on course to do so if they don't vote in the next election.