2023 Talossan Music Top 20 [Final Voting]

[þerxh Sant-Enogat]

- Introducing the 5-point vote. Give points to exactly five songs (5, 4, 3, 2, 1).

I do kinda worry this voting key is very harsh on personal favourites / love-hate songs in favour of songs that everybody kinda likes. That might potentially reduce diversity in the final a bit.

I totally agree, more selective votes will give more interesting results. In Music, Passion is better than Consensus !

[Glüc]

Maybe 6-4-3-2-1 or something similar might be an interesting intermediate variant, where we do expand the number of songs you have to give votes to but dont cut down on the points given to favourites too much.

Edit:
Or 10-7-5-3-1?

For comparison, votes given to first place:
4321 - 40%
107531 - 38.5%
64321 - 37,5%
54321 - 33,3%

Of course its up to Ian to decide. Just some ideas.

[xpb]

It's been a few years since the TMT20 had a formatting change, so we're overdue for one. Nothing major, I promise.

I've always thought Round 5 lacked the dignity it deserves. After all, all of the songs it in have already made the Top 20, but here we are voting just like we have in Rounds 1-4.

I am rebranding Round 5 as the SEMI-FINALS. A few new rules:
- DO NOT POST YOUR VOTE HERE. Send me your vote in private (just like for the Finals).
- Introducing the 5-point vote. Give points to exactly five songs (5, 4, 3, 2, 1).
- Voting will last one week.
- Results (except for which five songs advance to the final) will not be announced ahead of the final results reveal.

and the list is where?

[Sir Ian Plätschisch]

6,4,3,2,1 sounds good to me.

[Sir Ian Plätschisch]

TMT20 SEMIFINALS
The Semifinals consists of one group of ten songs (the 3rd place song from each of the five groups of Round 3 and the 1st-5th place songs from Round 4). The top five songs advance to the Grand Final. The bottom five receive Ranks #16-#20 of the 2023 TMT20, respectively.

The voting period will last one week. Votes cast after that will not be accepted, with the exception that we will always keep going until we have at least three votes per group.

Give your top five songs 6, 4, 3, 2, and 1 points, respectively. You must give points to exactly five songs.

DO NOT POST YOUR VOTE HERE. SEND IT TO ME IN A PRIVATE MESSAGE.

Charlie Daniels Band - The Devil Went Down to Georgia
David Bowie - Starman
Depeche Model - Enjoy the Silence
Earth, Wind and Fire - September
Eurythmics - Sweet Dreams (Are Made of This)
Radiohead - Paranoid Android
Radiohead - Street Spirit (Fade Out)
Talking Heads - Once in a Lifetime
The Who - Baba O'Riley
Toto - Africa

Tiebreakers:
- Number of voters giving 6 points
- Number of voters giving 4 points
- Number of voters giving 3 points
- Number of voters giving 2 points
- PPV in Round 4 (if applicable)
- PPV in Round 3
- PPV in Round 2
- Last year's result (1 > 2 > ... > 20 > Round 4 > Round 3 > Round 2 > other)
- PPV in Round 1 (if applicable)
- Random chance

I did my best with all the links but there is always a chance some are broken or have a wrong version or bad audio quality. If a link is broken or you have a suggestion for a better link, please contact me or post the link in the thread. Officially, we are not voting on the YouTube link, but on the listed Artist + Title.

COMMENTARY ON THE PROGRESS OF THE GAME, THE RULES, WHAT SONGS YOU LIKE, ETC., IS VERY WELCOME.

[Bråneu Excelsio, UrN]

Sent!

[xpb]

sent

[Glüc]

Sent

[þerxh Sant-Enogat]

Sent a loooong time ago

[Sir Ian Plätschisch]

FINAL TMT20 VOTING
The final round consists of one group of fifteen songs (the 1st and 2nd place song from each group in Round 3 and the top five songs from the Semifinal).

The voting period will last one week. Votes cast after that will not be accepted, with the exception that we will always keep going until we have at least three votes per group.

DO NOT POST YOUR VOTE HERE. SEND ME YOUR VOTE IN A PRIVATE MESSAGE.

Give your top ten songs 12, 10, 8, 7, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1 points, respectively. You must give points to exactly ten songs.

Charlie Daniels Band - The Devil Went Down to Georgia
Depeche Model - Enjoy the Silence
Dire Straits - Telegraph Road
Dire Straits - Sultans Of Swing
Earth, Wind and Fire - September
Johnny Cash - Hurt
New Order - Blue Monday
Ozzy Osbourne - Crazy Train
Pink Floyd - Wish You Were Here
Queen - Bohemian Rhapsody
Queen and David Bowie - Under Pressure
Radiohead - Paranoid Android
Rolling Stones - Gimme Shelter
Smiths - How Soon is Now?
The Who - Baba O'Riley

Tiebreakers:
- Number of voters giving 12 points
- Number of voters giving 10 points
...
- Number of voters giving 2 points
- PPV in Semifinal (if applicable)
- PPV in Round 4 (if applicable)
- PPV in Round 3
- PPV in Round 2
- Last year's result (1 > 2 > ... > 20 > Round 4 > Round 3 > Round 2 > other)
- PPV in Round 1 (if applicable)
- Random chance

Tactical voting refers to either giving more points than you normally would to a song because it would make the difference between it going through or getting eliminated, or giving fewer points than you normally would to a song because it might kick a song you like even more out of the competition. This is hard to prevent, but my very strong request would be to not do it. Give points to the songs you believe deserve to go through, regardless of how others are voting. Doing otherwise reduces the value of votes that came before you, which is unfair to them. Remember that it's not a competition between voters, but a collective effort to make a nice list of songs we like. Thanks.

I did my best with all the links but there is always a chance some are broken or have a wrong version or bad audio quality. If a link is broken or you have a suggestion for a better link, please contact me or post the link in the thread. Officially, we are not voting on the YouTube link, but on the listed Artist + Title.

COMMENTARY ON THE PROGRESS OF THE GAME, THE RULES, WHAT SONGS YOU LIKE, ETC., IS VERY WELCOME.

[Glüc]

Final on spotify https://open.spotify.com/playlist/6pSMedVf8NgGaqwQ3G8Jde

Strongest final in tmt history imo

[Glüc]

How many people voted so far?

[Bråneu Excelsio, UrN]

[Sir Ian Plätschisch]

How many people voted so far?

Four so far (although I haven't voted yet)

[þerxh Sant-Enogat]