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Started by Ian Plätschisch, July 09, 2020, 08:05:59 PM
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Quote from: Cresti d.I. Nouacastra-L. on July 09, 2020, 08:37:50 PMWell, my question is what does the LCC intend to achieve that the AMP could not? And while on the topic, what really were some of the major accomplishments of the AMP?
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Quote from: Miestră Schivă, UrN on July 09, 2020, 08:43:30 PMQuote from: Cresti d.I. Nouacastra-L. on July 09, 2020, 08:37:50 PMWell, my question is what does the LCC intend to achieve that the AMP could not? And while on the topic, what really were some of the major accomplishments of the AMP?To be fair, the essence of an appeal to a conservative audience is that you're not going to do things. But it seems that the appeal of the Big Box o' Beavers is "being active, while preventing future constitutional reform". So I suppose the record of activity of the Distáin is fair game.
Quote from: Ian Plätschisch on July 09, 2020, 09:15:16 PMQuote from: Cresti d.I. Nouacastra-L. on July 09, 2020, 08:37:50 PMWell, my question is what does the LCC intend to achieve that the AMP could not? And while on the topic, what really were some of the major accomplishments of the AMP?My experience with "selling" AMP to voters was that nobody could figure out what to make of it. It's platform was essentially a list of things that I personally wanted, and while I am very grateful to have gotten almost 20 votes in two elections, it was not a very sustainable way to run a party. By my assessment, the AMP brand quickly became associated with idiosyncratic policies that no one besides me could really support; that is fine for a think tank (which is how AMP still exists, by the way) but not really for a party.For example, a major success of AMP was, in my estimation, prodding King John into a somewhat higher level of activity; I focused a lot of energy on the message "The Monarchy is great, but this guy has to step it up or go away." However, it was difficult to hold a stable coalition of voters because Monarchists don't like it that you are trying to sack the King willy-nilly and people who lean FreeDem don't like it that you are staunchly defending the Monarchy.Another major success of AMP was finally getting the new OrgLaw through. However, the same problem arises; some people thought it went to far and some thought it didn't go far enough. Of course, this suggests the AMP should be supported by Talossa's moderate contingent, and I suspect that's where most of it's support was coming from, but even that was not a sure thing. AMP did not serve up the usual MRPT fare; some of the platform was quite conservative, some was quite not conservative, and a lot of it was just weird. To recap the rest of AMP's accomplishments:-A lot of legislation that reduces bureaucracy and (I hope) increases activity in several ways-Our Ministers were fairly active-To pat myself on the back a little bit, the AMP Manifestos and some of my writings in La S'chinteia were some top-notch thought leadership in their own right, even if you disagree with meThat seems like a good list of accomplishments to me. AMP was right for the moment. But the inherent instability of its support base, coupled with the collapse of all other conservative parties, convinced me of the need for a new party that more explicitly opposes proposals that I (and a lot of others) really do not like, and that does not have AMP's baggage.
Quote from: Ian Plätschisch on July 11, 2020, 09:34:59 AMA lot of the King's most recent Independence Day speech, and some of his other statements, seemed to me like responses to AMP's various statements and proposals.
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