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Standing Committee on the Organic Law
« on: July 25, 2021, 04:27:39 PM »
The Coalition Agreement states: "Any further fundamental Organic Law reforms, including the question of a unicameral Ziu or a “Real Cosa”, will be referred to a Standing Committee of the Ziu representing all elected parties."

This is that Committee, and I hope to see all 8 (!) parties represented in the Ziu commenting here. The goal of this Committee is that we don't want to run the Ziu aground on struggles over future OrgLaw reforms, so let's try to come to a consensus on fixes before writing up a bill and Clarking it.

Without further ado, here are some suggestions I want to raise:

  • That old chestnut, the Real Cosa. Organic Law IV.1 to be changed to: "The Cosa is the national legislative assembly, and is composed of seats apportioned among political parties based on their performance in the General Election. The number of these seats shall be set by law, except that it shall be no fewer than twice the number of Senators, minus one. It may administer itself as it sees fit."
  • Write the Túischac'h into the OrgLaw. The Mençéi is an Organic post, why not the President of the Cosa?
  • Possible further fixes to the Seneschál election. My top two questions: do we want to make it possible to abstain? Do we want to continue to require MCs to name two preferences?

The floor is now open for further vague suggestions.
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Re: Standing Committee on the Organic Law
« Reply #1 on: July 25, 2021, 04:29:54 PM »
The argument for a Real Cosa has to be tied to the argument that it is not right that any joker should be able to get legislative seats just with their own vote and $10. I've run the numbers and you could definitely get a seat in a 21-seat Real Cosa with 2 votes, although 15 would make it trickier.
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Re: Standing Committee on the Organic Law
« Reply #2 on: August 11, 2021, 04:01:01 PM »
Here's a formal proposal. Amend OrgLaw IV.1 with the following text in bold:

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The Cosa is the national legislative assembly, and is composed of 200 seats apportioned among political parties based on their performance in the General Election. It may administer itself as it sees fit. The number of seats in the Cosa may be changed by law, with the provisos that any such change will not take effect until the next general election of the Cosa; and that the number of seats in the Cosa may never be less than twice the number of Senators minus one.
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Re: Standing Committee on the Organic Law
« Reply #3 on: August 11, 2021, 07:19:07 PM »
And there's this one, which has been requested as a quid-pro-quo for legislative reforms: repeal of OrgLaw VII.6

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The Seneschál shall have the right at his discretion to withdraw any legislative proposal from the Hopper and instruct the Secretary of State to treat it as a properly submitted bill.

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Re: Standing Committee on the Organic Law
« Reply #4 on: September 22, 2021, 05:53:53 PM »
Writing the Túischac'h into the OrgLaw: move the first clause of El Lexhatx H.21, namely:

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The Cosa shall elect one of its members to serve as Speaker of the Cosa (Talossan: el Túischac'h) for the upcoming term. The Speaker shall preside, direct and maintain order during Living Cosas and in the Hopper, in an unbiased fashion. Otherwise, his function will be to advise Members of the Cosa of appropriate decorum. He is considered the honourable President of the Cosâ and shall be awarded all due veneration when serving as such. In the absence of the Túischac'h from the Hopper, the Mençéi shall perform these duties.

to become OrgLaw IV.12. Do we need to do anything other than that?
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Re: Standing Committee on the Organic Law
« Reply #5 on: December 20, 2021, 05:10:43 PM »
Possible further fixes to the Seneschál election. My top two questions: do we want to make it possible to abstain? Do we want to continue to require MCs to name two preferences?

Is anyone interested in taking this further, or is the Seneschál election mechanism fine as it is?
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Re: Standing Committee on the Organic Law
« Reply #6 on: March 18, 2022, 12:21:48 PM »
I am bumping this thread with wanton disregard for general forum etiquette, because this is the hill that I will die on:

We needed to scrap the whole OrgLaw, scrap the entirety of El Lexhatx, and condense both documents down to the important bits, less the pomp and ambiguity.

I have the credentials, and I have proven my grit. I'll keep banging this drum until the rest of Talossa lets me do the thing.
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Re: Standing Committee on the Organic Law
« Reply #7 on: March 18, 2022, 01:29:57 PM »
I am bumping this thread with wanton disregard for general forum etiquette, because this is the hill that I will die on:

We needed to scrap the whole OrgLaw, scrap the entirety of El Lexhatx, and condense both documents down to the important bits, less the pomp and ambiguity.

I have the credentials, and I have proven my grit. I'll keep banging this drum until the rest of Talossa lets me do the thing.

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