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Started by Duke John, April 30, 2021, 07:06:02 PM

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Duke John

Would someone be so kind as to tell me how to get my coat of arms to display here?

And, how do you type diacriticals and other special characters here?  I've cut-n-pasted, but I'd gotten so used to typing things like — and é on the other forum, and I miss it.  What's the secret?

-- John R

Tierçéu Rôibeardescù

Your coat of arms can be uploaded as an image, you go to your profile, forum profile and it should be on the list of upload image.
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Baron Alexandreu Davinescu

I don't know how to do diacriticals on here, either -- I have mostly been pasting in from Docs.
Alexandreu Davinescu, Baron Davinescu del Vilatx Freiric del Vilatx Freiric es Guaír del Sabor Talossan

                   

anglatzara

Stöds inte Münchens élite och Rhôneviner återkommande? Un più.

In other words, this board supports UTF-8, as far as I can tell. You need to make sure your OS and keyboard can create special characters and diacritics. If they do, you just type them like I did above.

Marcel Eðo Pairescu Tafial, UrGP

Yeah, thats how I type Talossan here as well: I created a custom keyboard layout for it.
Editing posts is my thing. My bad.
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Viteu

#5
How does one change the text above the avatar? Like if I wanted to change "Justice" to "Judge"?
Viteu Marcianüs
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King Txec

Quote from: Viteu on May 11, 2021, 02:31:56 PM
How does one change the text above the avatar? Like if I wanted to change "Justice" to "Judge"?

That requires an admin (me) to do. I'll fix it for you.
TXEC R, by the Grace of God, King of Talossa and of all its Realms and Regions, King of Cézembre, Sovereign Lord and Protector of Pengöpäts and the New Falklands, Defender of the Faith, Leader of the Armed Forces, Viceroy of Hoxha and Vicar of Atatürk
    

Baron Alexandreu Davinescu

Quote from: anglatzara on May 11, 2021, 10:14:36 AM
Stöds inte Münchens élite och Rhôneviner återkommande? Un più.

In other words, this board supports UTF-8, as far as I can tell. You need to make sure your OS and keyboard can create special characters and diacritics. If they do, you just type them like I did above.

I feel stupid, because I can't get this to work.  The help articles for Windows that I found seem to indicate that you do CTRL+SHIFT+: then a letter to put a diaresis, for example, but if I try to do that with the letter A, it doesn't work.
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Marcel Eðo Pairescu Tafial, UrGP

Quote from: Baron Alexandreu Davinescu on May 12, 2021, 01:50:21 PM
I feel stupid, because I can't get this to work.  The help articles for Windows that I found seem to indicate that you do CTRL+SHIFT+: then a letter to put a diaresis, for example, but if I try to do that with the letter A, it doesn't work.
Thats because that shortcut only works in Microsoft Word and Outlook. If you want to type diacritics independent of the program, you'll need to either memorise Unicode codepoints or install another keyboard layout, for example US-International.
Editing posts is my thing. My bad.
Feel free to PM me if you have a Glheþ translation request!

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Baron Alexandreu Davinescu

Are the codepoints pretty easy to learn?
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Marcel Eðo Pairescu Tafial, UrGP

Quote from: Baron Alexandreu Davinescu on May 12, 2021, 02:14:26 PM
Are the codepoints pretty easy to learn?
Well, theyre seemingly arbitrary sequences of four numbers, and upper and lower cases get separate values. Personally, I find them hard to remember, but every brain works differently.
Editing posts is my thing. My bad.
Feel free to PM me if you have a Glheþ translation request!

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Baron Alexandreu Davinescu

#11
Well, let's see... How many diacritics are there to remember? Like six or eight or something like that? If I understand correctly, the cedilla is barely used, right?

Maybe I'll make up a little cheatsheet for myself. I use too many different computers for changing keyboard layouts, I think.
Alexandreu Davinescu, Baron Davinescu del Vilatx Freiric del Vilatx Freiric es Guaír del Sabor Talossan

                   

Baron Alexandreu Davinescu

I wonder if it's possible to just add diacritic buttons over the post window. As far as I know about the forum software, it shouldn't be too hard. That might be another way to do it to make it more accessible for people.
Alexandreu Davinescu, Baron Davinescu del Vilatx Freiric del Vilatx Freiric es Guaír del Sabor Talossan

                   

Marcel Eðo Pairescu Tafial, UrGP

#13
Quote from: Baron Alexandreu Davinescu on May 12, 2021, 02:36:24 PM
Well, let's see... How many diacritics are there to remember? Like six or eight or something like that? If I understand correctly, the cedilla is barely used, right?

Maybe I'll make up a little cheatsheet for myself. I used too many different computers for changing keyboard layouts, I think.
If you mean for Talossan, then we can count them all. (On that note, no, Ç shows up quite often.)

Whats important is that its not the diacritics themselves that get codepoints in this case, but rather the letter with that diacritic together, theye precomposed. Which means:

Umlaut/Diaeresis: Ää Ëë Ïï Öö Üü
Acute accent: Áá Éé Íí Óó Úú
Grave accent: Àà Èè Ìì Òò Ùù
Ring accent: Åå
Breve accent: Ăă

Consonants: Þþ Ðð Çç

In total 40 separate codepoints (not counting obsolete diacritics like circumflexes) you'd need to memerise for Talossan. Installing a new keyboard layout would definitely be easier.
Editing posts is my thing. My bad.
Feel free to PM me if you have a Glheþ translation request!

TEMPS da JAHNLÄHLE Sürlignha, el miglhor xhurnal

Baron Alexandreu Davinescu

Quote from: Marcel Eðo Pairescu Tafial on May 12, 2021, 02:42:16 PM
Quote from: Baron Alexandreu Davinescu on May 12, 2021, 02:36:24 PM
Well, let's see... How many diacritics are there to remember? Like six or eight or something like that? If I understand correctly, the cedilla is barely used, right?

Maybe I'll make up a little cheatsheet for myself. I used too many different computers for changing keyboard layouts, I think.
If you mean for Talossan, then we can count them all. (On that note, no, Ç shows up quite often.)

Whats important is that its not the diacritics themselves that get codepoints in this case, but rather the letter with that diacritic together, theye precomposed. Which means:

Umlaut/Diaeresis: Ää Ëë Ïï Öö Üü
Acute accent: Áá Éé Íí Óó Úú
Grave accent: Àà Èè Ìì Òò Ùù
Ring accent: Åå
Breve accent: Ăă

Consonants: Þþ Ðð Çç

In total 40 separate codepoints (not counting obsolete diacritics like circumflexes) you'd need to memerise for Talossan. Installing a new keyboard layout would definitely be easier.

That's... a lot.  So yeah, it looks like you're right.
Alexandreu Davinescu, Baron Davinescu del Vilatx Freiric del Vilatx Freiric es Guaír del Sabor Talossan

                   

Viteu

#15
Quote from: Baron Alexandreu Davinescu on May 12, 2021, 05:02:01 PM
Quote from: Marcel Eðo Pairescu Tafial on May 12, 2021, 02:42:16 PM
Quote from: Baron Alexandreu Davinescu on May 12, 2021, 02:36:24 PM
Well, let's see... How many diacritics are there to remember? Like six or eight or something like that? If I understand correctly, the cedilla is barely used, right?

Maybe I'll make up a little cheatsheet for myself. I used too many different computers for changing keyboard layouts, I think.
If you mean for Talossan, then we can count them all. (On that note, no, Ç shows up quite often.)

Whats important is that its not the diacritics themselves that get codepoints in this case, but rather the letter with that diacritic together, theye precomposed. Which means:

Umlaut/Diaeresis: Ää Ëë Ïï Öö Üü
Acute accent: Áá Éé Íí Óó Úú
Grave accent: Àà Èè Ìì Òò Ùù
Ring accent: Åå
Breve accent: Ăă

Consonants: Þþ Ðð Çç

In total 40 separate codepoints (not counting obsolete diacritics like circumflexes) you'd need to memerise for Talossan. Installing a new keyboard layout would definitely be easier.

That's... a lot.  So yeah, it looks like you're right.

Here's a full list from my old bookmark folder for altcodes: https://fsymbols.com/keyboard/windows/alt-codes/

Don't know if anyone else has had this issue but Chrome has a weird bug that comes up for me from time to time when I attempt to use the unicode (e.g. alt+0252 ü)--a new window opens and the prior window refreshes.  This can be frustrating if you're typing something, like, oh I don't know, Marcianüs, in a long post and suddenly it's gone.  The other downside to the alt+unicode method is the limitation of not having a number pad on a laptop. 

I use the alt+Unicode on my work computer for obvious reasons, but for my personal machines, I use an app called "HoldKey" https://www.holdkey.eu/, which enables Windows machines to have the same function Mac OS X has (and cell phone users) of holding down the letter and selecting the accent.  It has a trial version, but it's only a few dollars and well worth it. 
Viteu Marcianüs
Puisne Judge of the Uppermost Cort

Former FreeDem (Vote PRESENT)

Baron Alexandreu Davinescu

Hm.  Thanks, man.  This seems like it must be such a common problem for any board that uses a language with diacritics, but I guess people just either do without, make the necessary changes on their local machine, or memorize the codes.  I did a quick search around to see if anyone has any fixes for Simple Machine Forums, but it doesn't seem like it.
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Miestră Schivă, UrN-GC

#17
The basic "US-international" keyboard on Windows, allows me to do all those characters with no problem, except for A-breve. The Linux-xfce US-international keyboard includes the A-breve. Luckily, A-breve isn't strictly necessary in modern Talossan.

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Baron Alexandreu Davinescu

Þhí§ ís Á þésþ.

Oh my.  Thanks!  I'll have to get used to doing it this way instead of doing it right in Google docs, but now maybe I can pick up speed a little bit.
Alexandreu Davinescu, Baron Davinescu del Vilatx Freiric del Vilatx Freiric es Guaír del Sabor Talossan

                   

King Txec

It is fortunately really easy to do diacriticals on Mac :-)
TXEC R, by the Grace of God, King of Talossa and of all its Realms and Regions, King of Cézembre, Sovereign Lord and Protector of Pengöpäts and the New Falklands, Defender of the Faith, Leader of the Armed Forces, Viceroy of Hoxha and Vicar of Atatürk