Quote from: Dr. Txec Róibeard dal Nordselvă, Esq., O.SPM, SMM on May 06, 2021, 09:54:02 AM

Quote from: Txosuè Éiric Rôibeardescù on May 06, 2021, 02:44:07 AM

Quote from: Dr. Txec Róibeard dal Nordselvă, Esq., O.SPM, SMM on May 03, 2021, 11:28:12 AM

Quote from: Txosuè Éiric Rôibeardescù on May 03, 2021, 08:57:13 AM

Quote from: Txosuè Éiric Rôibeardescù on April 28, 2021, 07:50:19 AM
* Full Party name: League of Centre Conservatives
* Party Initials: LCC
* 50 word statement: Vote LCC to help Talossa reunify and become an inspiring beacon once more. We seek to provide infrequent opportunities for "Votes of Confidence" in the King, while maintaining all other aspects of the Monarchy. Immigration, engagement with the micronational community, and language are our top priorities.
* Party Leader(s): @Txosuè Éiric Rôibeardescù
* Candidate list (incomplete):
1.@Txosuè Éiric Rôibeardescù
2.@Jordan Placie
3. @Danihel Txechescu


Party Platform: http://wiki.talossa.com/League_of_Centre_Conservatives

Thank you. I have updated your Cosa list and party URL for the ballot.

Sorry to do it again but needs must. Removed MC 3 and updated updated 50 word statement.

I have updated your information. Thank you.

And that's just macro-nations, elected monarchs are very common in micronations.

Also leadership changes style all the time in our nation... It's a good job we are no longer a fascist dictatorship (yes I read our history)... We evolve.

Quote from: Istefan Perþonest on May 09, 2021, 08:49:17 PM

Quote from: Txosuè Éiric Rôibeardescù on May 09, 2021, 04:32:35 PM

Quote from: xpb on May 08, 2021, 07:37:30 PM
Also posted at https://talossa.net/members/xpb/activity/443/ (you will need a complimentary TalossaNET account to login)

Balançeu / Balance believes there should not be a change to an elected office called "King" similar to a President (such as occurs in 12 other global countries such as Armenia, Azerbaijan, Burundi, Cameroon, Equatorial Guinea, Gabon, Ireland, Israel, Italy, Syria, and Tajikistan every 7 years).

Good sir, doth thou ever hear of the holy roman empire? or the kingdom of Scotland? or even the Byzantium? Dutch Republic? Poland Lithuanian commonwealth? Ever heard of the pope? Andorra? Do you know what they all have in common?  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elective_monarchy

You do understand that except for Andorra in the modern era (and that as a side-effect of France abolishing its monarchy in favor of a fixed-term presidency), all of your examples of "elective monarchy" there are cases where the monarch was elected for life, not for a limited term? Much like, well, the current King of Talossa was elected?

You missed one, the pope, modern day, still a fully fledged nation.

I am aware that they are for life, I was just pointing out elected monarchs are a thing.

I also missed San Marinos captain regents who are 6 months terms.

Xpb lists nations who have presidents who are elected to there positions. I list nations who have had elected monarchs, both history and modern day.

Quote from: Miestră Schivă, UrN on May 09, 2021, 04:55:53 PM

Quote from: Ian Plätschisch on May 09, 2021, 04:21:49 PM

Quote from: Eðo Grischun on May 09, 2021, 09:18:29 AM
What is the reason behind the six month delay between a failed "VoC" and the second convening?

Essentially to stop the process from going to quickly: if the King happened to become briefly unpopular around the time of the vote, the waiting period would prevent him from being immediately replaced, and makes sure the decision is well-considered

Six months is an entire Cosa term. Remember that Talossan politics happens in "dog years". Three months is surely more reasonable.

I think that also the point, It removes the incentive to remove the king purely for political gain.

Quote from: Baron Alexandreu Davinescu on May 09, 2021, 04:53:30 PM

Quote from: Txosuè Éiric Rôibeardescù on May 09, 2021, 04:32:35 PM

Quote from: xpb on May 08, 2021, 07:37:30 PM
Also posted at https://talossa.net/members/xpb/activity/443/ (you will need a complimentary TalossaNET account to login)

Balançeu / Balance believes there should not be a change to an elected office called "King" similar to a President (such as occurs in 12 other global countries such as Armenia, Azerbaijan, Burundi, Cameroon, Equatorial Guinea, Gabon, Ireland, Israel, Italy, Syria, and Tajikistan every 7 years).

Good sir, doth thou ever hear of the holy roman empire? or the kingdom of Scotland? or even the Byzantium? Dutch Republic? Poland Lithuanian commonwealth? Ever heard of the pope? Andorra? Do you know what they all have in common?  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elective_monarchy

As has been pointed out by a prominent Talossan, the term "king" has been applied to so many different sorts of positions that are selected in so many different ways that it's essentially meaningless in a technical way. But it's typically used in a colloquial manner to refer to an office that is, in general, as distanced as possible from partisan politics and which is invested with some certain amount of power. For example, if you were to tell an American citizen or a German citizen that their president was basically the same as a king, that would be taken as a comment implying that they had a lot of power outside of normal electoral politics.

Think of it like "food." In some places, they consume foodstuffs like cicadas or grubs as a matter of course. And that's absolutely fine. I'm going to hunt up some cicadas pretty soon myself. But if you invited someone to dinner and only served them grubs and cicadas, odds are pretty good most people would be upset if you hadn't explained beforehand! That's not because it's somehow wrong to eat cicadas and it's not because cicadas are "not food" by a technical definition, obviously. But there's a ton of things that qualify as food to someone at some time, that nonetheless don't come across as expected "food" to most people these days: mice, guinea pigs, dogs, rotting shark, etc.

So if someone says that the proposal would eliminate the monarchy and institute a presidency, I think it should be pretty clear that they don't mean it in a technical political science sense, right? Language is about communication, and they're trying to communicate that the idea of "king" means something more specific than "word we can use for just about any possible position in a government."

I'm so sorry but I do not understand the point... cicadas.... food... Monarchy? 

Quote from: xpb on May 08, 2021, 07:37:30 PM
Also posted at https://talossa.net/members/xpb/activity/443/ (you will need a complimentary TalossaNET account to login)

Balançeu / Balance believes there should not be a change to an elected office called "King" similar to a President (such as occurs in 12 other global countries such as Armenia, Azerbaijan, Burundi, Cameroon, Equatorial Guinea, Gabon, Ireland, Israel, Italy, Syria, and Tajikistan every 7 years).

Good sir, doth thou ever hear of the holy roman empire? or the kingdom of Scotland? or even the Byzantium? Dutch Republic? Poland Lithuanian commonwealth? Ever heard of the pope? Andorra? Do you know what they all have in common?  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elective_monarchy

Also I would like to attempt at creating a audiobook for this? May take some time but it would help with its accessibility.

Quote from: Marcel Eðo Pairescu Tafial on May 08, 2021, 01:26:01 PM
Just because I love the irony of it, a quote from page 182 translated into the national language.

AUCÜN citaxhién Talossan non parla ladin acest 'glheþ' så nominat, es acest-là includa ça createir, ¡el Regeu...! El 'glheþ Talossan' non c'e sfigurat par la þistoriă, non c'e parlat par el pópul d'aucün päts, es vrätsmint isch solămint ün atentat sür ün  fundamaintsch glheþesc à distonçar Talossa da sieu anavatan, els Estats Viensiçeschti. ¡¿E-ça q'el pópul Talossan... vrätsmint volt ün 'glheþ Talossan' pürmint fauçeu, sinutzil, inchesclenind, es lischnat qi'st butaßat ainciün lor CERVEDOURS?! ¡NON! ¡Nunca...! ¡El Glheþ Anglesc FOST estar el Glheþ Talossan...! Noi non povent açeitar aucün altreu, es per certan NON el 'glheþ Talossan' imparlat, lischnat, ineceßat, es à pünt sinutzil es aiceanta.

I haven't read that page yet, but let me test my talossan in translating it back:

"A???? Talossan citizens do not speak the 'language' in normalised conversation, which also includes it's creator, 'The king!'. The talossan language is (or is not) a significant part of the history, not speaking it is common among the population."

How am I doing so far?

Quote from: Miestră Schivă, UrN on May 07, 2021, 11:11:35 PM
You may not have considered that the existing Government has done all those things, and come up empty.

For your plans to be credible, you have to either:
a) recruit a team in advance, as the Free Democrats have done;
b) make an argument about how your programme will lead to people coming out of the woodwork to help it happen, when other programmes don't.

You massively underestimate how hard it is to motivate people to do things in Talossa (apart from creating minor political parties, I suppose)

This is our party platform, wether we get into government or not we intend to put ourselves out there and forfill what we set out to do. As I said we are the eager beavers, we aren't just here for the elections, we are here to stay and we mean business.

Fresh eyes and fresh plans.

Also, ministers will be selected on merit and experience In the areas required of them, for which we are open for cross party ministry allocation, which is not without historic precedent.

Quote from: Miestră Schivă, UrN on May 07, 2021, 08:59:07 PM

Big challenge for your programme, btw, is you haven't got a team. You and Senator Plätschisch are energetic types, but you're promising a schedule of activities which dwarf what the current government was able to do with seven Ministers. You need to show who would be doing this (as well as who would be paying for it)

Each individual task would be allocated by department, for which I do have people in mind. Certain individual tasks, such as the satalight (a satellite kit only costing £75, it's the launching of it that costs) would be entrusted by government to the space bureau, fundraising events to between culture and internal affairs, Micro-con delagation selection to foreign affairs, trips to cezambere and the GTA to internal affairs.

As to the new immigration campaign, the appointment of a permanent secretary of public affairs would involve an application process though the civil service, the ideal candidate having the key skills for the job as well as being offered a partially funded extra online course to fill in any skills required.

The beginning of advertising on both Witt and Kingdom webpages will also bring in a small amount of funds which could be used on other projects.
Charity events will be hosted on twitch with donations via gofundme. These charity events may include sponsored walks/hikes/rowing ext.

As for tours, those who are willing and live within the GTA and and who either already know our history or are willing to learn, tours can be organised online for those whom. Are interested for a charitable donation.

Calling one and all! Are you a moderate? Are you looking for a party to join? Do you like our plans?
Come join us Eager Beavers at the League of center conservatives! You could be one of our MC's, senators or even a minister if your lucky! :D

All requests to join will be considered, all we need is for you to be revved up and ready to hit the ground running (No experience required as full training will be provided).

Quote from: Miestră Schivă, UrN on May 07, 2021, 08:59:07 PM
Ha ha, that poster's too big for my screen, got one which is 800px wide or fewer?

Is this better? 😅

Hey everyone, check out our party political poster attached!

Anti isolation initiative:

• Send a representative to micro-con.
• Fundraising drives such as entertainment evening, bringo/Tombola ect. Donate to Covid charities and charitable organizations in the GTA.
• For £750 we can send a satalight to space.
• Reach out to Antarctic Survey bases to send a sticker or a flag to pengopats.
• Organising a Return to cazambre as well as potential tours around the GTA, which could be monetised for non-citzans.

All of the above build relationships, recognition and interest in our nation, which will also influence immigration.