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Wittenberg / Re: Please Take Part in the Second National Survey
« on: October 06, 2020, 03:46:32 AM »
we substitute the physicality by meeting here, virtually, which cognitively creates weak bonds and does not inspire much activity. to our minds, it is not much real and subconsciously appealing. we have to accept, that embodiment and enactment are irreplaceable in social life. "out of sight, out of mind" proverb says that with full force; "sight" means here a physical interaction (sorry for obviousness, but i want to be as precise as possible).

What about literature, art, music, science, religion etc? Sometimes the biggest adventures are happening in our minds, and there's a lot of social life going on merely by intellectual exchange. Looking at where we (the two of us) are coming from in terms of our micronational experiences, Penguinea, Rep. Talossa and what not eventually provoked our real world meetings, but before this, we couldn't escape from getting lost in an overwhelming narrative which created strong bonds, iMHO.

Being part of a "real" nation may be generating less feelings of "strong bonds" for various reasons. I'll never meet all the 82 and then  some millions of people who make up the country where I am living. But a nation and a culture aren't constituted exclusively by physical meetings.

of course penguinea and republic were quite inspiring, but also kind of explosive, it was a boom of creativity, which did not have the anchor to bind it to the ground. it burnt bright, but then just ashes and memories are lying around. i am more for less flammable more stable approach, kind i know from elsewhere (ark), it is mostly the personal and physical what creates the core on which you may build the art and suchs. i am not proposing any particular approach, i am not that bold, i am merely trying to analyse the life cycle of micronat... nationettes  ;) my concern is a long term stability and viability.

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Wittenberg / Re: Please Take Part in the Second National Survey
« on: October 02, 2020, 06:21:18 AM »
i would like to share the last comment i made in this survey:

the physically meeting citizens and unambiguous physical manifestation of talossa would be better for its stability. problem is, being scattered all over the globe, we hardly can meet in person. also, talossa is too bound to a large urban environment fully occupied by non-talossan activities. there is nothing physically & distinctively talossan, a phenomenon in which a passer-by would notice its differentness and possibly even talossanity without necessity of prior knowledge - artefacts, places, presence...

we substitute the physicality by meeting here, virtually, which cognitively creates weak bonds and does not inspire much activity. to our minds, it is not much real and subconsciously appealing. we have to accept, that embodiment and enactment are irreplaceable in social life. "out of sight, out of mind" proverb says that with full force; "sight" means here a physical interaction (sorry for obviousness, but i want to be as precise as possible).

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Wittenberg / Re: upcoming battle of the autumn semester 2020
« on: September 25, 2020, 01:59:30 AM »
Teaching online is far more difficult I have found than doing so in person!

it is very tiresome. one would say sitting at home would make it comfortable, but the brain is not used to read peoples faces and speech in the even tiny tiny time-delayed visual comparing to live talk. i feel like a squeezed lemon after a videocon lecture or seminar, but i am never sure if my juice made a good gin fizz or just spoiled a milk. what is even worse, the commented ppt presentation. i envy all actors to be able to do that, but speaking to "faceless" microphone is the worst psychotorture i ever went through, considering talking to people when i was a teenager.

Boy howdy you're right.  Though with the theatre closed, my workload has pretty much evened out.

i hope your theatre will be open soon and people will be coming back for plays. here, they are allowed to play live, but only with proper social distances around 2 m and face masks, meaning four to six time less people come than when at full capacity. i also feel with all those who had to work or study with face masks whole day on. this monday i sat like that for 10 h during theses defence and i had quite a difficulty to keep myself focused due to the limited breathing.

i am really worry about the people, who are vitally dependent on the vivid society and human contact - actors, small & local business, teachers on elementary schools. it is not that bad in europe (and AUS or NZ, afaik) with all the social backing from government (but even that might be better, imho, at least here), but e.g. india and similar countries are going to suffer greatly. 謝謝小熊維尼主席...



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Wittenberg / upcoming battle of the autumn semester 2020
« on: September 24, 2020, 04:25:21 AM »
as the populistic epidemiology continues to worsen the situation here under brilliant leadership of our local PM (similar kind of idiot as bojo or trump), effectively, the whole new semester is going to be taught on all unis online and we expect another lock-down (they expect to lose the grip over the situation in two weeks; prague is already without any ICU for covid patients). moreover, my parents-in-law are in not an easy situation, both recover after surgery, nothing fatal, but still serious, so i am very much consumed by all this stuff. being deputy for study on our institute and myself a reader of 6 lectures and two seminars, i have to fully move to online teaching, which i only improvised in the half of the period during spring (we had 6 weeks of total lock-down). to prepare such stuff that it makes sense and can be attained by students who are cut off involuntarily due to health and technical issues is a big challenge.

so, my attention to talossan matters is weakened, i hardly read witt in the last week and hardly pick up any strength to participate. "fortunately", talossa is not a boiling pot right now, which fact sets me a bit at ease ;) just to let you know.

hopefully, i have tons of books to read, films to see, perfect wife to survive the cabin fever, large garden and two funny cats (funny, but serious, yesterday, zaerti has brought us a weasel, and ate half of the poor sodder, which explained the mystery of strange shit found all over our lantifundiae and strange sounds too. she also brings snakes, time to time. aneru is more specialised in birds. lovable killers).

mouse over :)

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Wittenberg / Re: La S'chinteia Volume XIV
« on: September 09, 2020, 04:48:38 AM »
regarding monarchism, i am not impressed by the arguments presented in la s'chinteia XIV. i do not much care if the person is called president or king or shah or big-violet-bambaloo, until she/he has such a position in our political system, that it is substantiated, she/he cannot play a partisan or possess absolute power over anything.

if talossa needs a royal backbone for a long term stability, i do not really like it, cos it would be an artificial glue; talossa needs a strong civil society to survive, not an empty shell refillable at need. one (wo)man cannot be talossa, we all have to be.

i would understand a ceremonial, entertaining and representative role of the head of state, but never anything beyond constitutional monarchy with strict division of powers. we need no figurehead, but also no robert-the-first-like l'état, c'est moi tyrantosaurus.

what kingdom of talossa definitely needs is a good jester. jesters of bohemian kings are legendary (brother paleček or žito the mage).

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Cézembre / Re: Etats 55th Cosa term
« on: August 19, 2020, 11:24:27 AM »
it is all new to me :) i claim my two seats.

sorry for late reply, i was out of net.

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next, the form of talossa needs also not to the most attractive to people with so so many possibilities to be with other people. let's face that, fascination of "playing" or "being" a nationette fades face to face the new world. what was new and funny in 90ies is an old, worn shirt in 2020. yes, there are still lots of youngsters doing micronations (yes, yes, i know), but in their own way mostly. talossan tradition seems to not so appealing in contrast to do things on their own, with their close friends.
So, the appeal of micronations hasnt diminished since the 90s. Instead, people do the exact same thing that lead to the creation of Talossa in the first place: "do[ing] things on their own, with their close friends". In fact, creating a micronation has never been easier, and there are a whole bunch of online meeting places where micronations can interact with each other (often in toxic, cringy ways -- I suppose that's what Ben meant by "bug nation"). What's stopping us from doing more publicity for ourselves? Sealand continues to be wellknown even outside the micronational community, and they have waaaaaaaaaaay less to offer than us.

i am lecturing interlinguistics for some time and i came across an interesting observation, which is imho applicable to micronationalism too. the auxlanging community (made mostly of esperantists) is increasing in numbers, but proportionally to the total number of people, the dynamics is much lower. speaking a bit more scientificallish - if we imagine a very simple model of community dynamics as a linear function, the slope for auxlanging is lower than for general growth of population. which in fact means that the community draws less attention over time. also the structure of auxlanging community changes (also seems applicable model to micronationalism), less and less people are organised, more and more are "wild", unorganised fans mostly through social media, whose interest is different from the let say original intention to create an international by auxlang connected community. also younger people are consciously more sceptical to the goal of international auxiliary language. i noticed that in my courses too (i teach also conlangs). recent advances in cognitive linguistics shows that it was always the matter behind hindering the spread of the idea, but today it reaches the surface of the consciousness. that may be also answer to your second question - people are doing optically the same stuff but with different motivation. those micros still surviving at large, namely ladonia, are location based, core is off-line existing and ladonia specific. they are centred around physically reachable specific artifacts and locations. talossa is also attached to specific places, but those are not non-interchangeably talossa specific, non-talossan people do not see them as talossan, whereas those objects in kullaberg are directly linkable to ladonia. it is a strong point. mind is a strong thing and we still do not understand much how it works, what we already know pretty well, is that we fool ourselves a lot when it comes to layman's opinions on how mind and the stuff around work.

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i am also conlanger since ages and i still move around young conlangers, but their motivations and work differs from mine/people of my generation a lot and in many aspects.
As a young (I guess) conlanger myself, I'd love to know what exactly you mean by that.
EDIT: On a different note, could I interest you in joining SIGN?

if you think i would of any good to SIGN, i am happy to join. i must warn you, that besides my normal day-to-day job, i am in third year of my phd in general linguistics, so my time available is rather limited :)

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talossa never really turned into multigeneration ship, we should not blame ourselves. culture changes and soon we will turn into a museum exhibit.
But why does it have to be like this? If culture can change, why can't we? (that's a trick question, we do change -- the early 2010s are as ancient as the 1980s)

we can change, of course, but i do not know how we should do that. i am not a fan of social media but majority of people are, i am not really into this overserious political modelling of freedems (and other people are) or total micronationalistic cosplay with kings and pomp. i am into interesting people :) so some kind of compromise is fine with me, that is why i honestly e.g. run for cosa.

some of you may remember, i was/am still involved in my older group (ark maramia), but we faced the same thing even decade earlier (we were/are on since 1978) - families, jobs and other extra-arkian activities diminished the fire burning when we were younger and otherwise not committed to other stuff. we still "survive" (we meet once a year physically) - i work on language, sloooowly, my friend is an artist, so he creates different artefacts, monuments and stuff. even 25 yrs ago we abolished all the crap we used to play before - money, armies, copycat governments, claiming land. we introduced consensual community, spiritual homeland principle with single-page constitution and five single-page laws (division of power, administration, civil, judical, criminal & language) and we still have fun. it is not that vivid, but i am happy. last citizen came in 2001, last outted 2002. we are three today, the peak was some 20+ people exactly in the time, when we were adolescent kids playing kings and kingdoms at the end of 80ies (no internet and goulash-bolsheviks at power).

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so this is what english speakers call a shitstorm, am i right? nice. i always like illustrative examples when learning new words.

and now for something compleeeetely different. guys, could the main reason for appalling attractive of talossa be not the freedems government but simply that we and world around us are changing radically? obviously, some of you have mentioned that outside life takes our attention, but more importantly, i see it on me, the everyday grinding mill of wurck, family and suchs strips me of spontaneousness and creativity. not that i do not want to, i simply cannot. time to time i whip up me myself to do something, but mostly i live in series of slightly variable stereotypes. i do not complain. i accept it as an inevitable necessity of progressing human life. i resist whenever i may, but do not let it fall on me.

next, the form of talossa needs also not to the most attractive to people with so so many possibilities to be with other people. let's face that, fascination of "playing" or "being" a nationette fades face to face the new world. what was new and funny in 90ies is an old, worn shirt in 2020. yes, there are still lots of youngsters doing micronations (yes, yes, i know), but in their own way mostly. talossan tradition seems to not so appealing in contrast to do things on their own, with their close friends.

i am also conlanger since ages and i still move around young conlangers, but their motivations and work differs from mine/people of my generation a lot and in many aspects.

talossa never really turned into multigeneration ship, we should not blame ourselves. culture changes and soon we will turn into a museum exhibit. let us enjoy what we have without stupid bickering and try to attract at least those rare freaks who want to cosplay nationette citizens ;) and it can be hardly done when the only thing they see are old cocks on a heap of manure fighting, pardon my klatchian. being honest is fine, being responsible is good, being too serious never is of any benefit for a jolly company. i am rosenbergian nice nihilist, i love fun (it is the very one good thing we give one to each other) and i refuse, yes, i refuse to stand by such pointless debate as presented in this threat. this is far beyond political discussion, far off of friendly teasing. howgh.

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The Webspace / Re: Login issues
« on: July 25, 2020, 08:21:24 AM »
same bug here

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Wittenberg / Re: The Importance of the Upcoming Election (my views)
« on: July 20, 2020, 11:47:17 AM »
woosh, talossa during elections is like a desert after rain, few days out and suddenly tons of contributions ;D

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Sorry to hear that!  I hope everybody is safe, at least.

save we are, gottseindank, but it is still not solved ;) optimistically this week, we'll see.

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i am sorry for lagged participation, we have a kind of local disaster here (electricity shortage for our house) and my leave started, so we tend to run off the powerless house and my connection in our runaways is not always optimal.

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3.) NO @#$%& THRONE!- Nobody has the corner on Talossanity. Down with the Monarchy.

How about this one?  I'm beginning to come around to the old Peculiar idea of a diarchy.  We have the king, but we also have an elected head of state (I've been calling the schac'h in my thinking).  Their powers alternate, with the King on odd Clarks, and the schac'h on even (or something like that).  Maybe with some sort of cross-check.  If the monarchy is so much fun, let's double the pleasure, double the fun!

i have no problem with a lifelong king/queen, once he/she is elected and may be legally deposed under certain conditions. why not to have a strong quadrangle of powers (monarch, government, parliament, justice) instead of a triangle.

rotating monarchs might be fun, but i am afraid not to end with more monarchs than active citizens ;)

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We have a shared culture, a language (even if few of us speak it fluently, many of us attempt to use it), a history...we somehow think of ourselves as Talossan. We identify ourselves as Talossan. We are a diaspora of people's with a common identity. In that sense, we are indeed a nation. We don't really need to claim any land. In fact, the land claims are absurd, and as Ian said, that's the kind of things bug nations do. You see all these micronational people wearing medals and sashes and claiming eight square feet as an independent country...good for them, I guess. If Talossa wants to be more than that, we should forget the land claims. Right now, my mobile home in Ohio is (probably) more Talossan than anything in Milwaukee. (Well, I have Talossan coins, a Talossan flag, and my copy of the Guizua is never far from reach...)
As for provinces, I think they're pretty useless at this time. Our population of active citizens is too small to make provinces mean anything. That may someday change, if we ever get enough new people coming in.
As for Peculiarism versus derivatism, why would anyone want to emulate real countries? We can do better than that.


where may i sign this?

NPW - we can do better than that is a catchy and teasingly ambiguous slogan

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Though if we simply reduce provinces to affinity groups, how do they then differ from, say, political parties?  I'm actually somewhat fascinated with the idea of sorting everybody by seniority, and then apportioning provinces based on percentile of the system.  That way, there's at least some form of "connected interest" in them.  But they certainly don't need to be geographical.

you may remember i am not 100% fan of polit.parties, so some kind of civil society, in which people aggregate according to not only their political views is more appealing to me. but i get your point. i do not want implement stuff from penguinea, but some kind of that time admin division (were it wapentakes?) representing civil power (not purely political), sound still good to me.

the seniority sorting has one slight problem - there is a plenty to divide people of the same age into non-coherent groups. imho, age is not good connected interest. me thinks, people of different age with a strong affinity of some kind would make better provinces/socio-political units. as there are in reality passive voters and active politicians, province may have a roof organisation made of these active people representing the province. we are so few, that direct democracy may work here too, so provinces may just hold conventions of a sort to decide stuff. more people will ask for representative democracy, but particularly in provinces we are far from it.

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