Quote from: C. M. Siervicül on April 01, 2025, 05:00:02 AMCosa: DIEN
RZ6: Non
RZ21: Non
Cabana: Üc

Azul, your vote has been entered, here's your receipt.

Cosa: DIEN
RZ6: Non
RZ21: Non
Cabana: Üc

Placeholder to integrate Justice Perþonets' comments below into a new revision of El Lex G.11.1

Quote from: Istefan Perþonest on March 13, 2025, 03:24:35 PMYeah, so, regarding the most recent case I saw?

It would be nice if, instead of relying on my interpretation (which isn't binding precedent since it's a General Cort-level decision, and couldn't become biding precedent under the Organic Law even if appealed to the Uppermost Cort because it couldn't get a three-judge panel after recusals), you guys could either revise the statute law to explicitly say the inactivity-retirement system is a Notice of Reprimand procedure requiring concurrence of 2/3rds the Cosa, or, alternatively, revise the OrgLaw to make the existing procedure unquestionably Organic.

What exactly you should do is, I think, too much a policy (and thus political) matter for it to be proper for me to make a specific recommendation.

But I do think the absolute worst place for there to be any obvious room for differing interpretations in Talossan law is over the question of who has the power and responsibility to definitively interpret Talossan law.

Since it hasn't been scribed yet, let's specify that G.11.1 now reads in its entirety:

Quote11.1. Uppermost Cort Judges may be compelled to retire through organic removal
from office through an act of the Ziu in accordance with Article VIII of the Organic Law.
In accordance with the appropriate section, the inactivity of a Justice is defined as the
failure of that Justice to act, rule, or appear in an open case the Justice is assigned to
or participating in for more than 60 days, as certified by the Ziu in a majority vote.

I will also point out that the following provision was deleted by 60RZ20:

Quote11.1.1 A Justice of the Cort pü Inalt shall be declared inactive, and to have vacated
their seat, within the meaning of Organic Law VIII, if the Clerk of the Corts, contacting
the members of the CpI to assign a case as described in this title, is unable to contact
that Justice or does not receive any response to their enquiries, within 30 days

In the Hopper debate on this, @Baron Alexandreu Davinescu expressed discomfort with that paragraph and said that reappointment should be a sufficient check on completely checked-out Judges; but I'm not that happy with the reappointments clause, i.e. OrgLaw VIII:4:

QuoteUnless otherwise set by law, re-appointment shall be deemed automatic if no member of the Ziu has requested a re-appointment vote in the Cosa immediately preceding the expiration of the Judge's term; and re-appointment shall only require a simple majority of each house in the Ziu. The Ziu may modify the foregoing provided the requirements of re-appointment never exceed that for appointment.

I don't know how long "immediately preceding is", but what it boils down that there's a rather short window of opportunity for tossing a Justice overboard and if you miss that it's another 5 years.

So these are all things to think about.

The Ministry would like to remind citaxhien Ivan Mollov ( @BICOSTALAXIS4 ) that his ID is ready to be sent out, but first he must confirm his address with the Ministry (we've tried rather exhaustively to reach him; don't want this reaching a place he no longer lives!)

The Ministry is further happy to report the postal service is in possession of IDs for the following citizens:

@Pol dal Timă Lupulescu
@Dien Xhorxh
@naseerahmed
@þerxh Sant-Enogat
@Éovart Castiglhă

The Ministry of STUFF requests an update from the following citizens regarding whether or not their IDs have been delivered:

@Baron Alexandreu Davinescu
@Flip Molinar

I raised some of these same concerns in my signing statement, but did not feel it appropriate to veto the bill as I had not raised these objections prior to the bill being Clarked. Rather, I left it up to the people to decide.

-Txec R

It will IMMEDIATELY need further amendment!  There are features in the amendment that I do not see as natural or necessary consequences of simply regularizing the electoral date (the stated goal of the legislation), but were someone's "bright idea" to include at the same time.  Some of the text did represent useful simplification of the OrgLaw, and would certainly be worth revisiting if the amendment as presented during the about-to-be concluded general election does indeed fail passage.

What concerns me most is the little nuclear bombshell tucked in there, the revisions to Art VII Sect.8, which utterly changes the result of a failed VOC, turning it from an immediately new election (drastically shortening an already nearly-too-short legislative year) to an instant reversal of power.  While the quick change does save the Kingdom the muss, fuss, and time spent on a full election (a laudable goal), two things in particular bother me about this. 

First is the baked-in presumption that the Senechal (who is removed by the failed VOC) is the one purely at fault.  Coalition building is a major part of the post-election maneuvering by a freshly elected Seneschal, and distributing Cabinet seats to allies outside of one's own party (i.e. bringing them into the Majority versus the Loyal Opposition) occurs regularly.  It could come to pass that an allied Minister, who while embraced by the Majority does have agendas of their own, could take unpopular actions using that position.  Remember, the VOC asks if we wish to continue "the government" as currently constituted.  This is not just the Seneschal!  So, in this scenario, a main-line party Seneschal ends up taking the fall for a rogue allied Minister!

The other concern, the BIG concern, is that as written, it basically just says "the Opposition Leader takes over".  Period.  For how long?  The remainder of the former Seneschal's term?  Is it considered the beginning of a fresh 7 (or 6) Clark cycle?  If it is, do the things that normally occur during a leadership change occur, or are things otherwise left as-is? 

With no limit specified, could the elevated Oppositional Seneschal remain in power indefinitely?  These are things that need to be spelled out in properly constructed electoral law!  Are the remaining Cabinet members considered to be defrocked immediately as well and needing replacement/reappointment?  Is the Cosa dissolved or not with this new "instant government"?  What other adjustments might be forced by this sea change in leadership?

I am here to reassert my presence not just as a Talossan, but as a Vuodean.  Having just renewed my citizenship, I don't know who else is here...announce yourselves, please, fellow Vuodeans!

If you mean in the United States, then yes. Right now a lot of groups (including the one I help run) are participating in the April 5th protests. One website with some information is https://www.fiftyfifty.one/