Quote from: Marcel Eðo Pairescu Tafial, UrGP on June 01, 2026, 08:55:16 PM

Quote from: Breneir Tzaracomprada on June 01, 2026, 08:51:27 PM

Quote from: Marcel Eðo Pairescu Tafial, UrGP on June 01, 2026, 08:34:43 PMNot directly related to what's going on here right now, but since it seems like we'll be going ahead with cyclical party lists, I've added cyclical tie-breaks to my SPAV tabulator. I have yet to hear anything about it... feel free to tell me if I should stop referencing it here.

I checked it out but wasn't sure how to use it, Marcel.

Upload a ballot file -- you can download an example file based on the December 2025 election (I just noticed it was broken, I fixed it now), enter the turnout (last election's turnout was 105), select a tie-break method, and you should be getting the results.

Excellent, thanks.

Quote from: Breneir Tzaracomprada on June 01, 2026, 08:51:27 PM

Quote from: Marcel Eðo Pairescu Tafial, UrGP on June 01, 2026, 08:34:43 PMNot directly related to what's going on here right now, but since it seems like we'll be going ahead with cyclical party lists, I've added cyclical tie-breaks to my SPAV tabulator. I have yet to hear anything about it... feel free to tell me if I should stop referencing it here.

I checked it out but wasn't sure how to use it, Marcel.

Upload a ballot file -- you can download an example file based on the December 2025 election (I just noticed it was broken, I fixed it now), enter the turnout (last election's turnout was 105), select a tie-break method, and you should be getting the results.

Quote from: Marcel Eðo Pairescu Tafial, UrGP on June 01, 2026, 08:34:43 PMNot directly related to what's going on here right now, but since it seems like we'll be going ahead with cyclical party lists, I've added cyclical tie-breaks to my SPAV tabulator. I have yet to hear anything about it... feel free to tell me if I should stop referencing it here.

I checked it out but wasn't sure how to use it, Marcel.

Quote from: Baron Alexandreu Davinescu on June 01, 2026, 08:40:22 PMWhat kind of feedback were you looking for?  Should a bunch of us try it out?

It's meant to illustrate how SPAV tabulation works in practice, in case my explanation of it in this thread was too abstract or anything. The example file provided is based on the most recent election, and the output is what this Cosă would've looked like under 20-seat SPAV, provided that all voters chose to vote along partisan lines.

The table shows total (weighted) vote counts per candidate (row) and round (column), and a winning candidate is highlighted in yellow.

EDIT: Then again, since it isn't really the focus of this thread right now, I might as well stop linking to it for now.

What kind of feedback were you looking for?  Should a bunch of us try it out?

Not directly related to what's going on here right now, but since it seems like we'll be going ahead with cyclical party lists, I've added cyclical tie-breaks to my SPAV tabulator. I have yet to hear anything about it... feel free to tell me if I should stop referencing it here.

This day is commemorated officially as Republic Day. We need to do a better job celebrating national holidays as a part of our culture.

WHEREAS it has been nearly a year and a half since King John abdicated and King Txec ascended to the Throne and;

WHEREAS the Organic Law is therefore out of date and should be amended and;

WHEREAS we should always strive to ensure our laws reflect our current reality;

THEREFORE be it resolved by the King, Cosa and Senate that Organic Law Article II Section 3 shall be amended to read:

QuoteThe King of Talossa is King Txec, until his demise, abdication, or removal from the throne. Upon his demise, abdication, or removal from the throne, the new King shall be the Heir Presumptive, who shall be the duly-designated successor to the throne. The new King shall likewise be succeeded in the same manner, and thus forever in perpetuity.

Uréu q'estadra så:
Txec, King of Talossa

Quote from: xpb on June 01, 2026, 02:53:53 PM

Quote from: Breneir Tzaracomprada on June 01, 2026, 01:38:00 PMNorth Vancouver is only 25-30 minutes away from where I am in Burnaby. As a former Quick Recall captain I am tempted to try this out.

That BC site is led by Lee-Ann Whitlock, who is also the coordinator of Trivia Nationals in Las Vegas Aug 7-9 trivianationals.org

This should be interesting.

Quote from: Françal I. Lux on June 01, 2026, 03:57:15 PMI will also continue to advocate for a candidate-based voting system. As I've state before, I believe it would solve a lot of the issues we're having to grapple with in the current system. I am still uncomfortable with party lists on principle and would prefer political parties to be decentralized enough to let individual candidates take the lead in their own campaigns.

I also don't buy the argument that it's too hard so we shouldn't bother with it. If the right solution is a little bit more complicated than the current flawed system but actually solves a lot of the issues we all know exist, we shouldn't be afraid to implement it regardless of how it would impact us politically or ideologically because it's what's right for the nation in the long-term. It's also on us as elected officials to explain to the public thoroughly the change and why it's necessary. I believe our citizens are sophisticated enough to understand and would appreciate reforms that would actually empower them at the ballot box.

I'm a little skeptical we could get that written in the time remaining to us, but we could at least start something in terms of getting some text down.  Education is going to be key, and so will ballot design, and the language needs to be careful.  As I have found, there's a lot of places where statutes touch on this... my bill will clean up a lot of those, at least, and make way for a candidate-based system (maybe in the next term?)

Quote from: Miestră Schivă, UrN-GC on June 01, 2026, 04:15:52 PMI haven't had a chance to look at the Baron's bill closely yet, but I'm not 100% convinced we need to push on to a Sixth Clark bill. I reiterate my preference for a minimal OrgLaw amendment which would (a) clarify that only candidates on the ballot get to sit in the Cosa - in exchange for the excellent compromise of a 33% increase in seat limits - and that includes filling vacancies; (b) verbiage that allows either a closed-list or open-list system, details to be worked out by statute law in the 63rd Cosa.

I think we have time to get this done if we keep cracking at it.

My bill is fairly minimal -- a lot of the changes are just fixing all the little bits and bobs about party leaders getting to change things.  I used your language on a lot of it, adding on a bit where problems became obvious (like to prevent another problem like we just had, with different appointment methods at different times).  I think I found all of the references to leaders getting to appoint people at will and things associated with that.