Symbols of the Ziu

[Carlüs Éovart Vilaçafat]

I've moved forward with this in my capacity as an MC. Does anyone feel any particular way about reversing the color dispositions of the flags?

-NRH

I know it's probably a little late, but what is the reasoning behind switch the colors? My original idea of having the Cosa be 2/3 Red vs the Senäts being 2/3 green is based on the idea that the Senäts is a higher "house" and therefore closer to the King. The green in the flag symbolises the Monarchy and its magnanimity, while the the red stands for the Talossans and their tenacity. Similar to the House of Commons/House of Lords distinction in the UK Parliament.

EDIT:
I see the originals had the Senäts and Cosa on the red and green respectively, but the new way makes more sense to me, as explained above.

-TFF

[Üc R. Tärfă]

I've moved forward with this in my capacity as an MC. Does anyone feel any particular way about reversing the color dispositions of the flags?

-NRH

I know it's probably a little late, but what is the reasoning behind switch the colors? My original idea of having the Cosa be 2/3 Red vs the Senäts being 2/3 green is based on the idea that the Senäts is a higher "house" and therefore closer to the King. The green in the flag symbolises the Monarchy and its magnanimity, while the the red stands for the Talossans and their tenacity. Similar to the House of Commons/House of Lords distinction in the UK Parliament.

EDIT:
I see the originals had the Senäts and Cosa on the red and green respectively, but the new way makes more sense to me, as explained above.

-TFF

I suggested the change in the Hopper to refectl the use in westminter style parliaments that have the red for the upper house and the green for the lower one, which derives from the use of red in western tradition to denotes higher power because of the association made in ancient Rome.

I remember that there were other posts here that supported the change proposed but they are now lost because of the first data loss.

[Carlüs Éovart Vilaçafat]

I see, that makes sense. Thanks for the explanation!

-TFF

[Üc R. Tärfă]

Moreover: in the now soon-to-be replaced flags the red was already associated with the Senäts and the green with the Cosă:

Senäts


Cosă:

[Üc R. Tärfă]

Btw: in the data loss we lost the file of the new symbols they should be retrieved and added on the wiki when the law is passed.

[Béneditsch Ardpresteir]

I am in agreement with Uc Tarfa.

In fact he (Uc Tarfa) probably refers to my post which now stands deleted/lost.

Ideally, to my understanding, the Red should be for the Upper House (Senats) and the Green for the Lower (Cosa).
 
Plus, am not at all in favour of using the facade of the Merill Hall for the Senats as well, since our Senate is housed in the Greene Hall and not the in an unified building a la Westminister.

Can't help if the Herald(s) choose not to heed the SKA's observations.   

[Üc R. Tärfă]

Can't help if the Herald(s) choose not to heed the SKA's observations.   

58RZ4 was clarked so now is the law. However the Ziu is open to accept any raccomandation of the Royal College of Arms on that part: according to the law in the end that is the job of the Royal College to create and maintain all Talossan flags and coats of arms and achievements

I'm not a member and I'll not continue on this, I just came here to remember that:
now 58RZ4 is the law, so we need the file of the new symbols!

[Baron Alexandreu Davinescu]

Uc, perhaps you'd be interested in joining the Coletx?  You're a very active Talossan and I'm sure we'd all love to have you.

There is no official version of the symbols and flag at this time.  The Ziu has adopted recommended blazons for the arms and flags, but not official image files.  I'd suggest it would be most proper for the Tui to select appropriate images that match those blazons.  As it happens, @Mic'haglh Autófil, MC EiP created some earlier, higher up in the thread. We could contact him to see if we can get the vector versions, perhaps?

-NRH

[Sir Txec dal Nordselvă, UrB]

58RZ4 is not law until the King assents or his time to do so runs out.

[Üc R. Tärfă]

58RZ4 is not law until the King assents or his time to do so runs out.

You're right S:reu Secretar of course. ;D  I was just re-bumping that: in few days we will be with symbols that won't match the description, and they are used extensively in every statute for example.

[Mic’haglh Autófil, SMC EiP]

Uc, perhaps you'd be interested in joining the Coletx?  You're a very active Talossan and I'm sure we'd all love to have you.

There is no official version of the symbols and flag at this time.  The Ziu has adopted recommended blazons for the arms and flags, but not official image files.  I'd suggest it would be most proper for the Tui to select appropriate images that match those blazons.  As it happens, @Mic'haglh Autófil, MC EiP created some earlier, higher up in the thread. We could contact him to see if we can get the vector versions, perhaps?

-NRH

Let me know if these have attached correctly? It certainly looks like it on my end, but you never know.

- TLF

Edit: I see we've chosen to swap the color order between the two?

[Mic’haglh Autófil, SMC EiP]

Flag emblazonments have been brought into line with their now legally-specified designs.

[Baron Alexandreu Davinescu]

Flag emblazonments have been brought into line with their now legally-specified designs.

Thanks! I am on the road, but when I get a chance I will update the wiki.

-NRH