New Citizens Information Packet

[Mic’haglh Autófil, SMC EiP]

I thought it was good, but I also wouldn't know what it was missing lol


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[Miestră Schivă, UrN]

I hope to look at AD's draft during the weekend

[GV]

I hope to look at AD's draft during the weekend

I've made a few edits, already.  Nice work so far, Alexandreu!

[Miestră Schivă, UrN]

Okay, as a general outline it looks quite good. The biggest omission in content IMHO would be there's no mention of the Civil Service. I really think we need to promote the side of Talossa which means doing work for the State without having to take political sides.

Another section I would add under politics would be a section what the "hot button issues in contemporary Talossan politics" are. There's no point saying "check out the political parties" without explaining the basic axes of debate. Check out KR1's (tendentious and self-serving) list from 2001:

Current hot issues in Talossan politics include:

    Immigration reform: How fast should Talossa be growing?
    Formation of a "cultural" discussion group from which dissenting opinions can be excluded
    Reform of the 1997 Organic Law
    Composition of the Uppermost Cort (with various factions demanding a seat on the Cort)
    Relations and so-called "friendships" with other Micronations, especially those with a policy of jealousy or hatred for Talossa
    What if anything to do about inactive citizens ("pocket votes")
    Whether to prohibit citizens from holding more than one government office at a time (known as a "multiple office prohibition," or "MOP")
    The country's mystical Berber heritage
    Whether Gloria Estefan should be national entertainer
    Whether Talossan English should be an/the official language
    Friction between "Old Growth" and "Cybercit" Talossans

Another thing that really needs included, under each section, are links to TalossaWiki articles giving more background details.

At this point, I'd really like to invite our most recent new citizen (@Tric'hard) and our most active new prospectives (@Mic'haglh and @Abid) what they think of AD's draft. Does it answer your pressing questions, or at least tell you where to find more information?

[Baron Alexandreu Davinescu]

Okay, as a general outline it looks quite good. The biggest omission in content IMHO would be there's no mention of the Civil Service. I really think we need to promote the side of Talossa which means doing work for the State without having to take political sides.

Another section I would add under politics would be a section what the "hot button issues in contemporary Talossan politics" are. There's no point saying "check out the political parties" without explaining the basic axes of debate. Check out KR1's (tendentious and self-serving) list from 2001:

Current hot issues in Talossan politics include:

    Immigration reform: How fast should Talossa be growing?
    Formation of a "cultural" discussion group from which dissenting opinions can be excluded
    Reform of the 1997 Organic Law
    Composition of the Uppermost Cort (with various factions demanding a seat on the Cort)
    Relations and so-called "friendships" with other Micronations, especially those with a policy of jealousy or hatred for Talossa
    What if anything to do about inactive citizens ("pocket votes")
    Whether to prohibit citizens from holding more than one government office at a time (known as a "multiple office prohibition," or "MOP")
    The country's mystical Berber heritage
    Whether Gloria Estefan should be national entertainer
    Whether Talossan English should be an/the official language
    Friction between "Old Growth" and "Cybercit" Talossans

Another thing that really needs included, under each section, are links to TalossaWiki articles giving more background details.

At this point, I'd really like to invite our most recent new citizen (@Tric'hard) and our most active new prospectives (@Mic'haglh and @Abid) what they think of AD's draft. Does it answer your pressing questions, or at least tell you where to find more information?

I'm glad you like it!  I'll work on your suggested changes tonight -- they all sound great to me.

The civil service is mentioned at the top of the second page, but I've bolded it and I'll add more about it.

[Baron Alexandreu Davinescu]

Okay, did all of that.  It's now four pages, which actually makes it nicer to print if we want to send it to new immigrants in physical form.  And there's space for another section if we come up with one.

[Tric'hard Lenxheir]

I glanced at it, it looks pretty informative. I will give it a better look tomorrow.

[Miestră Schivă, UrN]

I approve of the current draft in its broad outline and have asked Cabinet for a formal thumbs up.

[Miestră Schivă, UrN]

Sorry for the delay. Cabinet has approved this document, with one suggested amendment: could the example of a Talossan language text instead be our National Anthem, Chirluschă al Glheþ?

I am happy to mandate in my capacity as Interior Minister that this document be formally presented to all new citizens upon their Grant of Citizenship in PDF form, as well as being a page on the Wiki. Should it also be a page on the official website? I believe that Eðo invented some means whereby a website page can be set up to reflect a Wiki page in real time.

[Baron Alexandreu Davinescu]

I have no problem making that change at all. I don't think it will require much adjusting of the formatting. I want to tweak and add a little bit more, but It won't change very much from its current form.

Would you like me to set up a wiki page? It won't look as nice.

[Miestră Schivă, UrN]

I have no problem making that change at all. I don't think it will require much adjusting of the formatting. I want to tweak and add a little bit more, but It won't change very much from its current form.

Would you like me to set up a wiki page? It won't look as nice.

Please do all of the above; with the caveat that the Government will have final say over the content if we're going to be handing it out to new citizens. Thanks for your help.

[Baron Alexandreu Davinescu]

Sure, no problem.  I'd advise still sending out the PDF instead of just a link, since it will look nicer and more nation-ey.  Maybe even work up to sending out a certificate of citizenship and physical copy.

[Sir Txec dal Nordselvă, UrB]

Sure, no problem.  I'd advise still sending out the PDF instead of just a link, since it will look nicer and more nation-ey.  Maybe even work up to sending out a certificate of citizenship and physical copy.

And who is going to do that? I'm already among the hardest working citizens and I don't have time to print and mail certificates also.

[Baron Alexandreu Davinescu]

Sure, no problem.  I'd advise still sending out the PDF instead of just a link, since it will look nicer and more nation-ey.  Maybe even work up to sending out a certificate of citizenship and physical copy.

And who is going to do that? I'm already among the hardest working citizens and I don't have time to print and mail certificates also.

I pretty much never suggest piling stuff on your office, as you know -- one of my first questions about new legislation that requires stuff from the Chancery is, "Did you actually talk to the Secretary of State about this?"  And I'm not starting now!  Probably this should be the job of someone in the Government if feasible.  Alternatively, if you did want the Chancery to do it, the goal might be to find someone to serve as a deputy and take care of it.

But really, I'm not sure this is a realistic short-term goal at all.  Like I said, we should work up it.  If we can bring up the number of active citizens, then we may be able to find volunteers for stuff like this... many hands make light work.

[Miestră Schivă, UrN]

Okay, I've taken the liberty of making the few final amendments myself. Attached is the version that the Government is going to use, barring any last minute suggestions from Cabinet. Can we have the relevant Wiki page updated, and the attached PDF linked to it?

A wrinkle has come up at the last minute in that talossa.com is down - we're working on finding out what's going on.