same bug here

woosh, talossa during elections is like a desert after rain, few days out and suddenly tons of contributions ;D

Quote from: Eiric S. Bornatfiglheu on July 15, 2020, 07:15:44 AM
Sorry to hear that!  I hope everybody is safe, at least.

save we are, gottseindank, but it is still not solved ;) optimistically this week, we'll see.

i am sorry for lagged participation, we have a kind of local disaster here (electricity shortage for our house) and my leave started, so we tend to run off the powerless house and my connection in our runaways is not always optimal.

Quote from: Eiric S. Bornatfiglheu on July 04, 2020, 08:12:02 AM

Quote3.) NO @#$%& THRONE!- Nobody has the corner on Talossanity. Down with the Monarchy.

How about this one?  I'm beginning to come around to the old Peculiar idea of a diarchy.  We have the king, but we also have an elected head of state (I've been calling the schac'h in my thinking).  Their powers alternate, with the King on odd Clarks, and the schac'h on even (or something like that).  Maybe with some sort of cross-check.  If the monarchy is so much fun, let's double the pleasure, double the fun!

i have no problem with a lifelong king/queen, once he/she is elected and may be legally deposed under certain conditions. why not to have a strong quadrangle of powers (monarch, government, parliament, justice) instead of a triangle.

rotating monarchs might be fun, but i am afraid not to end with more monarchs than active citizens ;)

Quote from: Iason Taiwos on July 04, 2020, 01:12:31 AM
We have a shared culture, a language (even if few of us speak it fluently, many of us attempt to use it), a history...we somehow think of ourselves as Talossan. We identify ourselves as Talossan. We are a diaspora of people's with a common identity. In that sense, we are indeed a nation. We don't really need to claim any land. In fact, the land claims are absurd, and as Ian said, that's the kind of things bug nations do. You see all these micronational people wearing medals and sashes and claiming eight square feet as an independent country...good for them, I guess. If Talossa wants to be more than that, we should forget the land claims. Right now, my mobile home in Ohio is (probably) more Talossan than anything in Milwaukee. (Well, I have Talossan coins, a Talossan flag, and my copy of the Guizua is never far from reach...)
As for provinces, I think they're pretty useless at this time. Our population of active citizens is too small to make provinces mean anything. That may someday change, if we ever get enough new people coming in.
As for Peculiarism versus derivatism, why would anyone want to emulate real countries? We can do better than that.

where may i sign this?

NPW - we can do better than that is a catchy and teasingly ambiguous slogan

Quote from: Eiric S. Bornatfiglheu on July 01, 2020, 02:06:35 PM
Though if we simply reduce provinces to affinity groups, how do they then differ from, say, political parties?  I'm actually somewhat fascinated with the idea of sorting everybody by seniority, and then apportioning provinces based on percentile of the system.  That way, there's at least some form of "connected interest" in them.  But they certainly don't need to be geographical.

you may remember i am not 100% fan of polit.parties, so some kind of civil society, in which people aggregate according to not only their political views is more appealing to me. but i get your point. i do not want implement stuff from penguinea, but some kind of that time admin division (were it wapentakes?) representing civil power (not purely political), sound still good to me.

the seniority sorting has one slight problem - there is a plenty to divide people of the same age into non-coherent groups. imho, age is not good connected interest. me thinks, people of different age with a strong affinity of some kind would make better provinces/socio-political units. as there are in reality passive voters and active politicians, province may have a roof organisation made of these active people representing the province. we are so few, that direct democracy may work here too, so provinces may just hold conventions of a sort to decide stuff. more people will ask for representative democracy, but particularly in provinces we are far from it.

Quote from: Eiric S. Bornatfiglheu on June 29, 2020, 08:14:44 AM
Seeing none, let it carry that Eiric S. Bornatfiglheu will continue as head of the NPW.  He will retain the title of "Chisleu Bruno" for the next term as well.

Excellent!  Thank you for placing your trust in me for another term.

Let's now look at refining our manifesto.  There seems to be pretty widespread support for continuing with these four points (or something like them).  But let's see if we cannot maybe expand it a little bit.  So, I'd like to place point one on the floor for discussion:

Quote1.) TOO @#$%& MANY PROVINCES- Any is too many. The provinces are a largely dead system that don't reflect anything in particular. They should be abolished. Or, failing that, be distributed in order of seniority on a percentile system.

What discussion is there on this point?

congratz, chisleu bruno :)

existence of province should be limited by number of active citizens (not those formally assigned), otherwise we create ephemeral entities inhabited by gogolian dead souls. and once i am radical, why not to create provinces ad hoc, when there are people who want to talossan together. these provinces may take traditional names or new ones, they need not to be located on solid ground, as i also oppose talossa claiming some territory of canon state. talossa is bound to a land of its origin, of the tradition (like pengöpäts or cézembre), of talossan people, but territorial claims (and generally any secessionism, even rhetorical or fun-meant) are childish. lot of place may mean and be talossa, without claims. talossa is mostly place in me.

Quote from: Eiric S. Bornatfiglheu on June 24, 2020, 06:32:18 AM
Alrighty!  Do we have any nominations for party leader?

hereby, i nominate eiric s. bornatfiglheu for a position of NPW leader.

esteemed co-peculiarists,

the suggested course of action works fine with me.

although i wasn't here when the old manifesto was prepared, i am all ten for it. concept of provinces requires larger active and diverse population, which we do not have. claiming real land which we do not own should be either strictly specified as symbolic or abandoned at all. i am neutral to monarchy in general, i am against absolutist and hereditary monarchy, but constitutional elective monarchy is fine with me, i do not really mind calling this political power president or king, but i have to admit, kings have a special flavour (not speaking in my power of vampire, but as a citizen of one sad republic). proclaiming benland would be an honest act of admitting, if valid, that talossa was not able to transpose from the old times to the new ones. i would do anything to have talossa instead of benland.

Quote from: Miestră Schivă, UrN on June 23, 2020, 12:32:51 AM
Fashion show, or "Talossa's Most Wanted Desperadoes"?

¡desperado! is der e prais on mai het? it is e fain pies of metal.

as a famous czech polymath jára cimrman once said: future belongs to aluminium!

show must go off!

тюбетейка стайл / tubeteika style

reading the hopper discussion, i am here to through my twopence as i am not a deputy to talk there.

you want to know the future of talossa? ask talossan people about their present and past. why are they here right know, what makes them stick.

apart from obvious things like we are mostly not-that-young-as-we-were-when-it-was-real-fun, we have real life outside which may roll over us time to time, we are tired (and bored), we should ask ourselves about the nature of ár naziuneta.

talossa was always somewhere in the middle of smth deadly serious and smth funny, humorous and not-that-serious. talossa has laws, CoAs and judges, but it has also berbers, peculiarists and hereditary king.

i am in this stuff (if i say micronationalism here, would it make me an outlaw?) for long 42 years. i know why i started it - i liked the idea playing state & might - drawing banknotes, maps, devising titles, ranks, languages, organising the less ambitious but still interested folk (yeah, i was the oldest in the band and pretty enjoying my influence). later on i was more into new philosophical background, culture and finally, i am here for the friendship and companionship of the people struck by the same disease.

i decided to re-join NPW, if elected i am going to serve my terms with honesty, but it is not my primary drive. i want to read you, talk to you, learn and see.

ask people to recapitulate their history with talossa, their motivations, their problems, ask them about the future. for i suspect, lots of people left, cos they felt someone stole their game, their fun, they may feel cheated and neglect. i do not judge them, i try to understand them. it is pointless to ponder if they are right or it is just their offended vanity. listen, talk to, discuss. go for new talossan concord, there's plenty of room at the baseline to paraphrase the wise.

i took part in penguinea, in republic, i have been taking part in the kingdom, i had (and still have) my doubts, but as we say here, all good pigeons will come home one day again. let them come home, make a pigeon hole for them, let them feed here, let them thrive here. be open to silliness, as we do not want to end up dead(ly) serious. uniqueness of talossa has to be in two overlapping magisteria - fun and real.

cuncorðeu talossán noveu c'è fütür de talossa.

it is good to see u enjoyed it.

i am really sorry, 3am is for me an inaccessible period of day, especially during wurck week. my sleeping schedule 10pm - 6am is strict, my sanity (or what's left of it) should be preserved at all costs :)

also for tasting, a slight piece of my irrationality - no zoom. we use here either M$ teams or google hangout meets.

i am looking forward to see u :)

Quote from: DNVercaria on June 12, 2020, 03:34:58 AM

Quote from: Miestrâ Schiva, UrN on June 11, 2020, 08:59:03 PM
I'm no Peculiarist myself, but for me explaining it is as simple as "Talossa does not have to simulate 'real' countries".

Sure, and I guess we all can agree that  we won't act like a gun-toting Milwaukee Liberation Army, bound to enforce our organic territorial claims. But where to go from your explanation as the common starting point? Should we wallow in dreams of medieval glory, thus being "not real"? Or develope the real utopy of a non-racist, non-sexist, internet-based international democracy? Or should we all put our pink-dotted rompers on and be as creative as hell all day and night long? I suppose, the term Peculiarism is evoking questions like this, and the audience is reacting with disappointment if we're leaving them with the simple statement "Talossa does not have to simulate real countries, that's all."

i would go not with any utopia, but practical struggle for unbiased and self-reflecting community. it definitely should include creative maniacs, nitpicking politicians and serious judges, all with one aim - to keep the spirit, to keep the thing rolling on its inner fuel, an interest in meeting people, talking to them, cooperating, arguing and that stuff people normally do, with a spark of specific spice - talossanity. in my mind it is a connection to the history, to the people, to the culture. we need no king, but we may choose to have one, we need no republic, but we choose to have one, what we may really need is a will to be here together. authoritarians close people behind fences, ReaLife does it in a cage of necessities to live on, talossa should keep us in a band cos we want to.