For those who came in late, the role of the Ladintsch Naziunál and his Büreu del Glheþ Talossán is to:

Quotespecifically promote the use of the Talossan language... work in concert with all extra-governmental societies and groups to do the same, and... advise the Department of the Census in the Chancery regarding the creation of Talossan names for citizens who request them. Within the Büreu there shall be a division known as the Talossan Translation Service whose task shall be to translate official or historical documents into el Glheþ Talossan. ..
(and also) advising and making proposals to the Government on how to promote the use of the Talossan language.

So I would like to invite @the Ladîntsch Naziunál to tell us what he intends to do to put the above into practice.

If I can get the UrN despite being branded the Kingdom of Talossa's Public Enemy #1 for the first 15 years of my involvement, anyone can, lol

Anyway, back on topic. I get a notification when I'm Mentioned; can I also get one for Likes to my posts, as Oldwitt did? Oh, I see there already is one, under my avatar - but since you don't see avatars on Latest 59, I don't see that regularly. Can it go in the top menu, near where Mentions is?

Quote from: Marcel Eðo Pairescu Tafial on December 08, 2019, 10:41:35 AM
I don't know, it looks to me like /l/ > [ð] / V_V was just a misinterpretation on Hool's part that somehow managed to get into talossan.com unnoticed.

Can I suggest - as a "rule of thumb" - that where KR1's materials and post-2005 CÚG materials differ (on matters other than orthography) KR1's materials should be preferred?

On the subject of pronunciation I have no idea whether the CÚG were in the habit of actually speaking the language and thus would be able to see whether certain pronunciations were "practical".

Iac's suggested SIGN rules are more complicated than the existing CÚG rules which broke down under apathy.

I say: start as simply as possible, add complexity over time if necessary.

I like everything you're saying here - a refreshing new approach, a clean break with the old era.

Quote from: Marcel Eðo Pairescu Tafial on December 07, 2019, 06:45:57 PM
Research on older forms of Talossan:[/b] does anyone know what, say, mid-80s Talossan look like? Wouldn't it be useful to know what it looked like in at least some circumstances? We should definitely try to research that more.

Here's a historical sketch of the evolution of the language from KR1, written in the late 90s.  Sadly most of the actual texts would be in old issues of Støtanneu which have never been put online and only exist in KR1's archives, though there are very brief extracts in the 1992 History of Talossa.

So how should a new language organisation operate? Open thread.

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If you're interested in comparison, the old CÚG rules are attached.

Thanks, Marcial. I think your PDF contains a good compromise for a "Provisional Standard" which is "good enough for Government work", as the saying goes.

But it is very crucial that we don't confuse the short term for the long term. We need a CÚG replacement that will do proper language research of the kind Epic suggests. We also need a Standard Talossan right now. The two are not in conflict. In fact, I hope that by establishing a standard that some speakers might not like, you guys will be motivated to organise SIGN properly, do the research, and create a better standard.

I look forward to Epic, Marcel, Iac and others (with my contribution, of course) setting up the rules by which SIGN will operate. Making rules of authority and of decision-making that will allow us to create Arestadâs or whatever in the way that CÚG used to; and carrying out the research that Epic talks about that make sure we make good ones.

In the meantime, I say that Marcel's proposal is good enough for right now.

If you people had got it together to make something happen in the 2 years (!!!) I've been trying to herd you like recalcitrant cats, then this measure would not be necessary.

You don't get to pass the buck, disappear, not do the work, and play "wish someone else would..." anymore, because it's me with whom the buck stops. Extreme measures are now necessary. I am giving Marcel the power because doing this the consensus way got nowhere.

Nevertheless, once SIGN is formally established, democracy will be restored within the language community. If you have a better way to break the deadlock of the last 2 years, now is the time to recommend it.

Many people complain about inactivity in Talossa, call it a "nation-threatening crisis", and then complain about any serious measures meant to change that.

If the CÚG were ever to bestir itself to object, that might have some relevance.

HAHAHAHAHA you called my bluff and I wasn't bluffing.

Go for it. If you want me to countersign your proposals as the One True Talossan (until SIGN is properly set up), I will.

La Società per l'Ilesnaziun del Glheþ Naziunal

By the power inherent in my role as Minster of Culture of the Kingdom of Talossa, I decree:

- that as soon as the Still Into This Amendment takes effect SIGN is the only national body responsible for protecting, defending, developing and setting standards for ár glheþ naziunál, el glheþ Talossán.
- that (subject to confirmation by the poll attached to this message) @Marcel Eðo Pairescu Tafial will be Provisional Convenor of SIGN and will have unilateral authority to set up standards for el glheþ, and to create membership and decision-making rules for SIGN, subject only to counter-signature by the Minister of Culture.

Anyone got a problem with this?

I think that whichever of you guys actually wants to take responsibility for getting SIGN started and making policy on orthography and everything else will be recommended for the Order of the Purple Tongue by myself.

Sadly, everything I saw over the last term was everyone saying "no not me" and ducking for cover, while agreeing that someone else should do it.

I'm not a fan of having a whole bunch of minifora which will seldom get used.

Esteemed Fiováes and others present!
The role of Capitán (head of government, analogous to Governor) of this province has been vacant since June 1 of this year, when Audradâ Roibeardét declined to stand again and there were no candidates for the office.

Given that I have been informed that a Fiovan has decided to stand up and make themselves available for this role, I hereby announce that nominations are now open for the role of Capitán of Fiovâ for the term ending June 1 2020.

In accordance with The Fiovan Elections and Referendum Law Title III, all candidates must provide:

   
• their name
• their party affiliation (if any) and
• a statement, no longer than 50 words, of their candidate's aims and objectives

See you again in a week!

miestrâ, provincial SoS since time immemorial

(this message is copied identically on the "other" Wittenberg)

Quote from: Sevastáin Pinátsch on December 05, 2019, 07:23:33 PM
What's to stop France from annexing you back? Is your barbed wire better quality? Are they unaware of your existence? Or just indifferent?

According to the 1992 History of Talossa, KR1 formally notified the French government of the annexation by nailing a postcard to the internal wall of one of the German WW2 forts on Cézembre, so obviously they must have taken notice of that.