Quote from: King Txec on July 07, 2025, 06:16:51 PM@Sir Lüc, if you would be so kind as to provide appropriate credentials for our sub-board, I would've most grateful.

I believe you have already gone on and assigned the correct permissions yourself, your Majesty. I remain available to correct any misconfiguration.

Quote from: Tric'hard Lenxheir on July 06, 2025, 10:21:10 AMThank you for the help, the first case may have just been due to someone not being very smart and not thinking to check whether he was logged in or not

Well, that may be so, but if the error message being displayed is misleading or inaccurate that just compounds the problem. That wasn't very smart of myself either!

Quote from: Baron Alexandreu Davinescu on July 02, 2025, 07:43:14 PMWittenberg is an amazing tool that works really well, and I am very grateful to our hardworking tech folks who have made it possible.  (Do I remember right that Etho set it up?)

No, that was me. I set up this version of Witt and was Wittmeister from late 2019 to June 2020; Eðo took over when I left; I resumed Wittmeistering from September 2022 to July 2024 when Dan T took over; and there was a last, final swap that I don't think we announced publicly whereby I am again Wittmeister since mid-April 2025.

Azul, I thought I would give a brief update on recent database login issues.

In the first instance, an MZ directly visited the Clark voting page without being logged in. The page did not tell him he wasn't logged in, but rather informed him he did not appear to be an MC or Senator. I fixed the issue by adding a hint telling users to log in first.

Unfortunately I forgot a slash in the login url, which caused a second MZ to be redirected to a nonexistent page when attempting to log in from the Clark voting page. This was also promptly fixed. Logins from any other point of the website worked as expected.

These are the only confirmed reports of bugs involving logins. Last month, I assisted one MZ who was unable to log in but they simply were using the wrong credentials; and in one recent instance I was unable to determine what was causing login issues for another MZ, as when they retried logging in under my supervision they no longer had issues.

Users who experience issues with any part of the database are encouraged to reach out to me - we'll troubleshoot them together and your detailed feedback greatly helps solving your case quickly.

Quote from: King Txec on July 03, 2025, 05:29:39 AMI would like to ask @Sir Lüc to create a sub-board somewhere on Witt that would be appropriate and provide myself with moderation rights on that board. I would also like to ask that for now, only members of the Royal Commission should be able to post, but all citizens should be able to see the board.

Very gladly, your Majesty - this should be done now and I have verified the permissions should be working as expected, though let me know if they don't. I will add additional members to the membergroup as they are announced.

Quote from: Istefan Perþonest on July 01, 2025, 12:42:18 PMUm, did someone delete the Courthouse sub-board on Witt? I can't find it, and looking at my past messages my posts to it are missing.

It's an SMF glitch following the moving-around of boards I did earlier today, made all the worse by the fact I could still see the board (and others I moved) so I didn't know other people couldn't. Thankfully opening and closing the board's settings should have fixed it.

Quote from: Sir Ian Plätschisch on June 26, 2025, 12:59:10 PMThat would be believable if you had said something ONCE and then stopped after you were informed of how it was being taken.

It's not believable now because you said the exact same things over and over AFTER you knew full well everyone hated it.

I need not add anything.

Quote from: Baron Alexandreu Davinescu on July 01, 2025, 09:22:46 AMThe provincial boards all have posts from the last few months, and that's why I didn't recommend that.  I don't think it would be outrageous, but there has actually been a good amount of local activity lately, so maybe wait on that and see how you feel in a few days?

That's fair enough. The current Wittenberg, though full of bugs, does at least show you small indicators for new activity in subboards on the main page, which Proboards didn't do. I suppose while they take up some space, most people will be interested in what's above them.

Quote from: Baron Alexandreu Davinescu on July 01, 2025, 09:22:46 AMThat makes sense -- I'd suggest the Chat Room (perhaps renamed "Private"?) could then be a sub-board of that Off-Topic board?

Yes, or under the Wittenberg main board, so to suggest the private board isn't just for off topic stuff. Either way works.

QuoteIt would be good to get the Government's opinion on this (maybe that already happened in private?) as well as His Majesty's, too.

Nothing happened in private yet as this is something I had been half mulling but hadn't really told anyone yet. Opinions from all would be much appreciated.

Fixed - it was just an SMF glitch which I resolved just now by entering the settings and saving.

It was not obvious to me that the moved boards were now hidden since I could still see them and no setting had been changed. The voting threads for the Clark were still accessible via the link in the Clark master post, so no real harm was done in the brief time they were invisible.

Either way, I'd be thankful if the Baron didn't need to be the adult in the room so often, as it should really be obvious to people that I can't be expected to check Witt every half an hour in the middle of a workday, a few hours after spending a good chunk of time publishing the Clark no less.

Right, I have implemented virtually all of the proposed/requested tweaks.

The lone outstanding issue is to perhaps collapse all provinces into a single board right below the main Wittenberg one. I am somewhere like 75%-25% in favour of doing that at the moment.

Additionally, I am pondering whether we should split the Chat Room into a Hobby/Offtopic board, which would now be public, and an all-purpose private board (for personal stuff and also threads like the recent immigration thing).

(As usual, topic locked; if you wish to vote on Witt, please use the Cosa/Senate threads linked above)

Voting on the July 2025 Clark (the third of the 61st Cosă) is now open, until the 21st of the month, at 19h30 TST.

You can find the Clark at: https://database.talossa.com/ziu/terms/61/clarks/3 (database) or at https://wiki.talossa.com/images/5/58/July2025Clark.pdf (pdf)

MCs and Senators can all vote on the new Database using the credentials I sent you earlier: https://database.talossa.com/ziu/clark/vote

If you wish to vote on Wittenberg, MCs can vote here and Senators can vote here. Please do not vote any other way or on any other thread.




Sir Lüc da Schir, UrB
Secretary of State

Members of the Cosă, you can cast your votes on the First Clark here or on the database: https://database.talossa.com/ziu/clark/vote

You can find the Clark at: https://database.talossa.com/ziu/terms/61/clarks/3 (database) or at https://wiki.talossa.com/images/5/58/July2025Clark.pdf (pdf)

If you vote here on Witt, do not indicate any conditions which may make it sound like this vote isn't final: you can always change your vote later.

Senators, you can cast your votes on the Second Clark here or on the database: https://database.talossa.com/ziu/clark/vote

You can find the Clark at: https://database.talossa.com/ziu/terms/61/clarks/3 (database) or at https://wiki.talossa.com/images/5/58/July2025Clark.pdf (pdf)

If you vote here on Witt, do not indicate any conditions which may make it sound like this vote isn't final: you can always change your vote later.

Azul.

This morning I have taken my time to review the first five pages of posts in the Hopper Archive, corresponding to two year's worth of CRL work. In no instance a bill was Clarked without some sort of explicit approval from at least two members, though with different phrasing, so I am really wondering as to what precedent the Seneschal is referring to.

This is enough for me to revert to my initial interpretation, as both 1) the existing law is clear though flawed, and 2) I agree this would be an unfortunate precedent to set that could no doubt be exploited by bad actors. I would still urge the members of the CRL who have not weighed in on the edits to please pay attention to Witt in the few days at the end of the month when the work of the committee ramps up. That would substantially reduce the odds of finding ourselves in such undesirable situations.