Symbols of the Ziu

Started by Baron Alexandreu Davinescu, July 05, 2022, 01:50:06 PM

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Baron Alexandreu Davinescu

I personally prefer the simpler ones, but I do love how the more ornate ones look on the flag. Maybe the simple ones become the basic emblems and the more ornate ones for the flag?

-NRH
Alexandreu Davinescu, Baron Davinescu del Vilatx Freiric del Vilatx Freiric es Guaír del Sabor Talossan


Bitter struggles deform their participants in subtle, complicated ways. ― Zadie Smith
Revolution is an art that I pursue rather than a goal I expect to achieve. ― Robert Heinlein

Baron Alexandreu Davinescu

Actually, there's no reason at all that both sets can't be adopted! Now that I think about it, there's a lot of times you might want to use a simpler logo, and other times you want something fancier. For the top of stationary, for example, you probably want the simple logo. For the top of a pronouncement, you probably want the fancy one.

How would people feel about offering both sets to the Ziu?

-NRH
Alexandreu Davinescu, Baron Davinescu del Vilatx Freiric del Vilatx Freiric es Guaír del Sabor Talossan


Bitter struggles deform their participants in subtle, complicated ways. ― Zadie Smith
Revolution is an art that I pursue rather than a goal I expect to achieve. ― Robert Heinlein

Carlüs Éovart Vilaçafat

#47
This was my flag idea inspired by the tierce of the Lesser State Seal. I originally had the colors the original way, but I like the Long Fellow's reversal because it makes more sense.

I do think they would probably look better with the Long Fellows more ornate borders.

- OAF
Premieir of Maricopa
The Fulbright Fellow, Royal Talossan College of Arms
Member, Talossan Science Fiction, Fantasy & Whisky Society
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Sir Txec dal Nordselvă, UrB

Amazing work. Thank you for taking this on!

-REH
Sir Txec Róibeard dal Nordselvă, UrB, GST, O.SPM, SMM
El Sovind Pudatïu / The Heir Presumptive
Secretár d'Estat
Guaír del Sabor Talossan
The Squirrel Viceroy of Arms, The Rouge Elephant Herald, RTCoA
Cunstaval da Vuode

Mic’haglh Autófil, SMC EiP

Quote from: Carlüs Éovart Vilaçafat on August 09, 2022, 03:29:47 PM
This was my flag idea inspired by the tierce of the Lesser State Seal. I originally had the colors the original way, but I like the Long Fellow's reversal because it makes more sense.

I do think they would probably look better with the Long Fellows more ornate borders.

- OAF

Using the Lesser State Seal as a template is a great idea -- it also helps to break up what I will admit was a somewhat boring field on my previous designs. :P

If we incorporate my seal/border design, this is how they come out.

- TLF
Minister of Technology
The Long Fellow, Royal Talossan College of Arms
Specialist, Els Zuávs da l'Altahál Rexhitál
Zirecteir Naziunal, Parti da Reformaziun

Mic’haglh Autófil, SMC EiP

Alright, getting back into the swing of a few designs here. One silver lining about a hard reset on life is that the time off means I can come back and look at designs with some fresh eyes. I didn't really redesign anything this thread concerns, but I did realize I hadn't created any versions of the seals with transparent backgrounds, so...


Minister of Technology
The Long Fellow, Royal Talossan College of Arms
Specialist, Els Zuávs da l'Altahál Rexhitál
Zirecteir Naziunal, Parti da Reformaziun

Breneir Tzaracomprada

Quote from: Mic'haglh Autófil, MC EiP on September 20, 2022, 06:23:50 AMAlright, getting back into the swing of a few designs here. One silver lining about a hard reset on life is that the time off means I can come back and look at designs with some fresh eyes. I didn't really redesign anything this thread concerns, but I did realize I hadn't created any versions of the seals with transparent backgrounds, so...




These are wonderful!

Sir Txec dal Nordselvă, UrB

Quote from: Mic'haglh Autófil, MC EiP on September 20, 2022, 06:23:50 AMAlright, getting back into the swing of a few designs here. One silver lining about a hard reset on life is that the time off means I can come back and look at designs with some fresh eyes. I didn't really redesign anything this thread concerns, but I did realize I hadn't created any versions of the seals with transparent backgrounds, so...




Nice work.

-SVA/REH
Sir Txec Róibeard dal Nordselvă, UrB, GST, O.SPM, SMM
El Sovind Pudatïu / The Heir Presumptive
Secretár d'Estat
Guaír del Sabor Talossan
The Squirrel Viceroy of Arms, The Rouge Elephant Herald, RTCoA
Cunstaval da Vuode

Sir Txec dal Nordselvă, UrB

What is the status of this request?

-SVA/REH
Sir Txec Róibeard dal Nordselvă, UrB, GST, O.SPM, SMM
El Sovind Pudatïu / The Heir Presumptive
Secretár d'Estat
Guaír del Sabor Talossan
The Squirrel Viceroy of Arms, The Rouge Elephant Herald, RTCoA
Cunstaval da Vuode

Baron Alexandreu Davinescu

I guess it's not clear the next steps here, since there's no official applicant.  I'd suggest that maybe the way to go is for the Coletx (in your person) recommend a course of action to the Ziu, and then a legislator can act on that.  Maybe the way to go is to recommend that they delete the current symbols from el Lexh, and then recommend substitute blazons?
Alexandreu Davinescu, Baron Davinescu del Vilatx Freiric del Vilatx Freiric es Guaír del Sabor Talossan


Bitter struggles deform their participants in subtle, complicated ways. ― Zadie Smith
Revolution is an art that I pursue rather than a goal I expect to achieve. ― Robert Heinlein

Baron Alexandreu Davinescu

#55
I think these are the blazons as they seem to be, to the best of my ability.  Whether the Ziu will prefer Carlus' or Mic'haglh's emblazonment is up to that body.

Device of the Cosa:  Argent, the facade of Merrill Hall sable, within an engrailed bordure or.
Device of the Senats: Argent, the facade of Merrill Hall sable, within a braided bordure or studded with eight jewels gules.
Flag of the Cosa: A 2:3 vertically striped bicolour of green and red, charged on the fly side with the device of the Cosa.
Flag of the Senats: A 2:3 vertically striped bicolour of red and green, charged on the fly side with the device of the Senats.
Alexandreu Davinescu, Baron Davinescu del Vilatx Freiric del Vilatx Freiric es Guaír del Sabor Talossan


Bitter struggles deform their participants in subtle, complicated ways. ― Zadie Smith
Revolution is an art that I pursue rather than a goal I expect to achieve. ― Robert Heinlein

Sir Txec dal Nordselvă, UrB

Quote from: Baron Alexandreu Davinescu on November 29, 2022, 10:26:40 AMI guess it's not clear the next steps here, since there's no official applicant.  I'd suggest that maybe the way to go is for the Coletx (in your person) recommend a course of action to the Ziu, and then a legislator can act on that.  Maybe the way to go is to recommend that they delete the current symbols from el Lexh, and then recommend substitute blazons?

Okay. I'll table this then until we have a new Cosa.
Sir Txec Róibeard dal Nordselvă, UrB, GST, O.SPM, SMM
El Sovind Pudatïu / The Heir Presumptive
Secretár d'Estat
Guaír del Sabor Talossan
The Squirrel Viceroy of Arms, The Rouge Elephant Herald, RTCoA
Cunstaval da Vuode

Béneditsch Ardpresteir

#57
Window panes in heraldry is uncommon, but still it exists.

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Windows_in_heraldry

Why don't we substitute the portcullis with the distinct windowpanes of the Greene Hall and the Merill Hall for the Senate and the Cosa respectively?

https://ibb.co/kmMg5hX

https://ibb.co/L8xHh82
Béneditsch Ardpresteir, Esq., O.SPM, PMPA
Squirrel King of Arms, Royal Talossan College of Arms; The Noir Eagle Herald
Member, Royal Talossan Bar; Vice Admiral, Royal Talossan Navy; Owner-Schneiderian Steels

Formerly:
Justice of the Uppermost Cort; Attorney General; Deputy Immigration Minister; Senator; Member of the Cosa; Undersecretary of State; Premier & Provincial Secretary, Maricopa; Chancellor of the O.SPM; Dean, RTCoA; Jolly Good Fellow

Baron Alexandreu Davinescu

I've moved forward with this in my capacity as an MC. Does anyone feel any particular way about reversing the color dispositions of the flags?

-NRH
Alexandreu Davinescu, Baron Davinescu del Vilatx Freiric del Vilatx Freiric es Guaír del Sabor Talossan


Bitter struggles deform their participants in subtle, complicated ways. ― Zadie Smith
Revolution is an art that I pursue rather than a goal I expect to achieve. ― Robert Heinlein

Sir Txec dal Nordselvă, UrB

Quote from: Baron Alexandreu Davinescu on February 12, 2023, 06:49:00 PMI've moved forward with this in my capacity as an MC. Does anyone feel any particular way about reversing the color dispositions of the flags?

-NRH

No problem. Thanks.

-SVA/REH
Sir Txec Róibeard dal Nordselvă, UrB, GST, O.SPM, SMM
El Sovind Pudatïu / The Heir Presumptive
Secretár d'Estat
Guaír del Sabor Talossan
The Squirrel Viceroy of Arms, The Rouge Elephant Herald, RTCoA
Cunstaval da Vuode