Quote from: DNVercaria on December 31, 2019, 12:24:08 PM

Quote from: GV on December 03, 2019, 04:57:57 PM

Wittenberg XII: The first of the two Republic Wittenbergs, it went online ca. 2009-ish (MPF??) and lasted a year or two.  The preservation status of this Witt is unknown.

Wittenberg XIIb: The last of the two exclusively-Republic Wittenbergs, it went online ca. 2009-10 and was taken offline at Reunision on or about 20 April 2012.  The preservation status of this Witt is unknown.

If I remember it correctly, Witt XII and Witt XIIb were the same forum in two different places. Witt XII had been installed, hosted and maintained by Andy L., who, when he quit Talossa, didn't want to extend his contract with the webspace provider. So Ián Anglatzara found another provider and installed the forum software. Transferring the database required some undocumented changes of internal variables, so to get this fixed the two forums mentioned above existed parallely for a couple of weeks. Eventually Witt XII was completely transferred to Witt XIIb and therefor, completely preserved.

Wow - thanks for this!  2009 to 2011 are the years in which I was almost completely inactive in Talossa.

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1i8_hP41t1dP-Ldn40HnAXtQ9963JngKf

Enjoy!

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1RXcV-KHik1UZCLereIzwhF_DcrnpTWDZ

This edition combines the 2002 and 2003 editions of Àr Päts (by R. Ben Madison) into an omnibus edition, taking both into account.  It is fully name-translated for the internet and to Ben's unchanged text, I have added 'chapters' and commentary of my own taking everything to the present day. 

The Big, Huge scrapbook the PM was hoping for will not happen.  There is no time for me to look through all my pics and put them in properly and coherently.  In the fullness of time, a 'final' omnibus of the 2002-2003 combined Àr Päts will be put out to the public, but until that time, I hope this anniversary edition suffices for my part in our celebrations of four decades of Talossanity.

GV

Quote from: Miestrâ Schiva, UrN on December 23, 2019, 04:36:14 PM

Quote from: Lüc on December 23, 2019, 07:10:10 AMSadly I'm not so confident that we will get to see "official", lawful operation of this forum happen anytime soon.

The target of 50 registrations was an arbitrary one and can be ignored if the Government decides to do so.

We were at 49(!!) and then went to 46.  Is someone trying to troll us?  lolz

Quote from: Sevastáin Pinátsch on December 11, 2019, 03:53:59 PM
I like all these ideas, but particularly #2. Media coverage might spur new immigration, which we could certainly use.

100% agreement on all counts.

Quote from: Marcel Eðo Pairescu Tafial on December 08, 2019, 12:39:51 PM

Quote from: Lüc on December 08, 2019, 12:32:55 PM
Look at this beauty. Temporary Wittenberg! Hah, if only Q knew...

Yeesh. That aged like milk.

http://talossa.proboards32.com/ was Witt XI's original main URL.  Sometime between 2004 and now, ProBoards did a major revamp, which made talossa.proboards.com the current URL. 

There was never a temp-Witt in 2004.  Pete H. set up the http://talossa.proboards32.com/ which later became talossa.proboards.com

Quote from: Sir Alexandreu Davinescu on December 06, 2019, 02:27:03 PM
The benefits of the wiki are that it allows anyone to add things, nothing can be lost, we can keep track of who added things, and it's much easier to categorize since you don't need nested folders or anything

I will not be able to get to anything Talossan this week.  Once next Sunday is done, the bulk of my Xmas gigging is done for the year.

There, you can turn off signatures and avatars, as I have done.  :-)

But for Ben Madison, the ever-so-slight possibility exists the Kingdom of Talossa might still at this momrnt be running on MPF's Wittenberg X.  It was Ben's vendetta against Kane Gruber that provoked the start of the Republic and the ill-advised suspension of far too many accounts on Witt XI.  My only regret with all that is that on 1 June 2004 innocent bystanders were caught in the middle, and for that, I am profoundly sorry.

During the spring of 2004, no-one in the Kingdom of Talossa was thinking straight.

Because of all that, on or about 2 June 2004, Pete H. on his own intiative sought out a forum option for the Kingdom that could be made active immediately.  Hence, what is now talossa.proboards.com.

It turns out in terms of long-term stability, lack of outages, etc., Pete when he needed something in a great hurry chose well.  The Kingdom was able to start posting immediately, and fourteen years later, this forum is still going without a hitch, at this writing the most-stable and longest running Wittenberg incarnation in Talossan history with almost 14,000 threads and possibly a quarter of a million posts - a forum that saw the Kingdom through post-apcalyptic weeks after 1 June 2004, the end of Ben's time with us, the Kingdom's part in the Talossan Cold War, Reunision, and the coming-together over the years since spring 2004 of the modern Kingdom of Talossa and the modern Talossan diaspora.

In 2018-2019, however, it became apparent talossa.proboards.com was inherently unstable in two respect, in my mind: it was free-of-charge with ProBoards able to, at any time, put all of our data behind a paywall or shut the site down altogether.  Add to that the demise of native archival functionality during this time, and the urgency for a move to a new Wittenberg forum was readily apparent.

The numbering of Wittenberg incarnations is a bit of a controversial issue, imho.  This is the last Witt in which the exact sequential number-ordering for Wittenberg forums is objective.  On 1 June 2004, half of Talossa lost its accounts in Witt X, and the Kingdom put together Witt XI that week: talossa.proboards.com

Witt X as the forum-organ of the 2004-2012 Republic continued to be active for about two-to-four years after 1 June 2004.  I'll need to check the extant record for the precise date.  After Witt X, we had Witts XII and XIIb, the existence of the Kingdom's Witt being fully-recognized in our nomenclature.  I am not sure why MPF named it XIIb and not 'XIII'.  Of course with Reunision, Witt XIIb went offline while We Who Came Back went straight to this Wittenberg XI, the first time Talossans left a newer Wittenberg for an older one.

This Wittenberg perfected (or perhaps began) the now-taken-for-granted multiple Witt forum-boards for everything from the Cosâ to the provinces.  It was also perhaps as smart-looking a Witt UI as we've ever seen.  The nested-board-message visual structure and UI that ended in Witt X is much-missed, and I hope future iterations of our online discussion forum will be able to bring that back in a way that is stable and sustainable while being fully-archivable.

Witt X did not have native archival functionality, but MPF made it possible to render entire threads and more onto a single web page, thereby making what is now the Lytheria Codex possible.  The new Witt at wittenberg.talossa.com does not have native archival functionality, either, but it gives the Kingdom back something it has not had since Witt X: an internet discussion forum, the innards and code of which are fully under the control of the board-owner(s). 

The underlying code of our new 'Wittenberg XIV' is customizable, and Lüc da Schir is doing stunning work in make our new Witt come truly alive, and perhaps even in a way the venerable Witt XI never was and never really could have been, even as robust as it was.

And finally, this is a milestone in Talossan history: the first Wittenberg put together by a Kingdom of Talossa, a single Talossan community, and a unified Talossan community since the coming of Witt X on 20 February 2003.

A thousand thanks to everyone who did the work in making wittenberg.talossa.com possible, and in the spirit of KonMari, I say to you, Wittenberg XI, thank you, thank you, thank you.

Gödefrïeu Válcadác'h
Senator - Fiôva
Royal Archivist, Scribe of Abbavilla, and former Kingdom and Republic Senescháis
Wittenberg XIV: wittenberg.talossa.com
Wittenberg XI: talossa.proboards.com

Quote from: Lüc on December 05, 2019, 08:55:24 AM
Hello everyone, just a quick heads up that I'm planning on upgrading the Wiki "soon"ish. We are several versions behind (1.23 vs 1.33) and an update is overdue. This is likely to take place this weekend.

What is the procedure for backing up the Wiki?  Of course, and if possible, I'd like to be able to back up the Wiki on my own at will.

I hope JP and his family are all-right.  Something odd would have had to have happened for them to have not voted en-masse.

Quote from: Miestrâ Schiva, UrN on December 05, 2019, 02:27:36 PM
Can we have the feature of tagging users with "@username"? I've just realised how hard it is to remember the Talossan-language spelling of some people's names without that feature :D

+1

Off the top of your head, Miestrâ, what is the governing 'authority' on the currently-accepted translations of people's names into Talossan?  I've had the Book of Names for years, but if CUG or SIGN is ultimately the keepers of such information, that would be good to know.

Quote from: Miestrâ Schiva, UrN on December 04, 2019, 03:53:05 PM

Quote from: Eiric S. Bornatfiglheu on December 04, 2019, 03:30:15 PM
Would it be possible to have an "edit count" function?  IE, a tag regarding the number of times a post has been edited?

+1

+1

Stunning work so far!

Quote from: Sir Alexandreu Davinescu on December 04, 2019, 08:49:06 AM
There's also the TalossaWiki Library: http://wiki.talossa.com/TalossaWiki:Library

In time, they will be combined.  :-)  And do not worry: there will be no overhaul of the TalossaWiki Library.  I'll probably just make it the Library of Talossa, linking everything on my GoogleDrive to it or just uploading everything to the Wiki.