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#766
The Free Democrats of Talossa would like to express our pleasure and gratitude that the incoming Seneschal and the Talossan National Congress are still committed to the Agreement which put the TNC government into office.

There is indeed a fundamental difference in principle between the parties. We agree that there is a real need to make sure that the Secretary of State, the Chancery and the whole Royal Civil Service act without any hint of partisan bias. We do not agree that limiting the civil rights to free association of the Secretary of State are necessary or justifiable in that regard; nor that, when the Secretary of State briefly served as Free Democrats Party President during a crisis, he behaved improperly or even criminally. We deplore the way that this has been brought up over and over again, and the way in which it seems likely to be brought up again in future.

Notwithstanding this, the Agreement between the two parties has proven to be a success, in that frank discussions behind closed doors have led to a far greater mutual understanding of our common ground as well as our differences. We regret that the former Seneschal who negotiated the agreement with us is not around to see this.

The Free Democrats look forward to proposing a bill in the Hopper which will specifically raise higher guardrails against any Chancery or Royal Civil Service official displaying partisan bias. We look forward to more constructive discussion between the two major parties, in public where possible and in private where necessary.
#767
I'm going to oppose this in the Hopper but I don't have a firm objection about it going there
#768
Well, the broad masses will have noted by now that Mximo's bill wasn't Clarked. Perhaps it's best for the FreeDems to put out our statement and then the TNC is free to say whatever they want, whenever they're ready?
#769
This serves as the 14 days notice required under Party Constitution s.8.

Very vague agenda:
- election of Party President, Party Secretary, and Provincial Branch Chairs
- any amendments to the Party Constitution or Programme
- speeches

If you're not a member of the Free Democrats yet - you have 14 days to change that! PM me or Party Secretary @Antaglha Xhenerös Somelieir
#771
Quote from: þerxh Sant-Enogat on January 28, 2024, 06:28:25 AM
Quote from: Miestră Schivă, UrN on January 27, 2024, 08:26:29 PMWell, Þerxh? Any problem as far as you can see? Probably time is a factor
Presenting the situation to the TNC, give us a few more days

You can have as many days as you like for the statement, but I need it confirmed that you/Mximo will NOT Clark the bill
#772
Quote from: Breneir Tzaracomprada on January 28, 2024, 04:04:57 PM
Quote from: Miestră Schivă, UrN on January 19, 2024, 01:43:26 PMThanks for your interest, I'm waiting to see whether anyone else has any suggested amendments.

After nearly ten days I wanted to check if there is any news on amendments, @Miestră Schivă, UrN ?


Appears not. Happy to add you as co-sponsor so.
#773
Well, Þerxh? Any problem as far as you can see? Probably time is a factor
#774
Quote from: þerxh Sant-Enogat on January 22, 2024, 04:22:21 PMA joint announcement seems very strange.
I would rather, as TNC representative in the Committee (cosigned by Breneir if you are fine with this) communicate something like (to be translated in a better english):
"The Freedem representatives in the committee did not agree to push to the Ziu any bill forbiding in the future the simultaneous holding of the position of SoS and the one of Party Leader.
Honouring its signature on the TNC-Freedem agreement, the TNC will withdraw the bill from the Hopper.
The TNC anyhow deeply regrets that the Freedem representatives did not allow the members of the Ziu discuss the bill, possibly amend it, and vote on it."
Miestra, do you agree that this is factual ? And what would be your announcement in response ?

The Free Democrats of Talossa would like to express our pleasure and gratitude that the incoming Seneschal and the Talossan National Congress are still committed to the Agreement which put the TNC government into office.

There is indeed a fundamental difference in principle between the parties. We agree that there is a real need to make sure that the Secretary of State, the Chancery and the whole Royal Civil Service act without any hint of partisan bias. We do not agree that limiting the civil rights to free association of the Secretary of State are necessary or justifiable in that regard; nor that, when the Secretary of State briefly served as Free Democrats Party President during a crisis, he behaved improperly or even criminally. We deplore the way that this has been brought up over and over again, and the way in which it seems likely to be brought up again in future.

Notwithstanding this, the Agreement between the two parties has proven to be a success, in that frank discussions behind closed doors have led to a far greater mutual understanding of our common ground as well as our differences. We regret that the former Seneschal who negotiated the agreement with us is not around to see this.

The Free Democrats look forward to proposing a bill in the Hopper which will specifically raise higher guardrails against any Chancery or Royal Civil Service official displaying partisan bias. We look forward to more constructive discussion between the two major parties, in public where possible and in private where necessary.
#775
Quote from: Sir Lüc on January 24, 2024, 05:46:49 PM(Can I ask you to edit the original comment to reflect the latest version, @Miestră Schivă, UrN  ?)

If by that you mean "the first post in the thread", then that's done; but I'm not sure this is a good thing to do in future because it falsifies the historical record
#778
@Sir Lüc @Ian Plätschisch can the CRL have a look at this now plz?
#779
Quote from: Breneir Tzaracomprada on January 22, 2024, 08:02:58 PMCan I be added as a sponsor to the Privy Council one? I do think some bipartisan support would be a good signal of our willingness to work together.

We'll wait for any final amendments; I'll add you as a sponsor to the version that goes to the CRL if you are still keen at that stage.
#780
Quote from: Breneir Tzaracomprada on January 21, 2024, 08:00:35 AM
Quote from: Miestră Schivă, UrN on January 20, 2024, 11:58:04 PM
Quote from: Breneir Tzaracomprada on January 20, 2024, 09:46:21 PMAbsolutely, and this is just a proposal Miestra, what if we increased the number of ex-officio PC members to include Leader of the Opposition and Mencei? And decreased the restricted offices in the Chancery bill?

The Privy Council issue is in a different bill, this one is about Cunstaváis alone.

Sorry, you are correct. Let me think about it then.

I'd like to get it on this Clark; no real rush but I'd like the thumbs-up in time for the CRL to get a good look at it