This is not a law and will not be codified. A Sense of the Ziu is basically a resolution. It will never appear in El Lex.

-Txec R

I love the idea of that! As for the Guiza, it is or at least was available on Amazon and I presume royalties go to Hooligan. It's outdated though so I'm not sure if we have a newer version somewhere.

-Txec R

Quote from: GV on May 23, 2025, 05:36:37 PMI don't find it on talossa.com or on Witt.  Thanks, all!

https://discord.gg/at3guvYb

Quote from: Baron Alexandreu Davinescu on May 23, 2025, 02:52:10 PMCould you remind me of what you were talking about when you said you'd already written some stuff as a starting point?

Absolutely.

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-Txec R

I'm good with whatever comes from this as long as it works to address the issue.

-Txec R

Quote from: Baron Alexandreu Davinescu on May 23, 2025, 11:02:33 AMHere's a first draft.  It was tempting to make it vague, but I think that would harm our specific efforts to "name and shame."  The Chancery -- and everyone -- has to see that we're not afraid to take sides against harassment.



WHEREAS on October 17th, Breneir Tzaracomprada told another citizen he was cute amidst an aggressive policy dispute.  This made the other citizen uncomfortable, but when told that he was being rude, he reiterated that he thought the target of his affections was cute.  Several people again reminded him that was inappropriate behavior, but S:reu Tzaracomprada took it further, saying he thought his target was handsome and that he'd tell anyone who asked.  He said he'd keep saying whatever he wanted.

Some weeks later, S:reu Tzaracomprada followed up these incidents by saying that he thought the same young man was "suave and debonair."  He repeated it again when asked to stop.  And he loudly proclaimed that he would continue to engage in this behavior, even when told very clearly that his target was deeply unhappy with his attentions, and

WHEREAS this treatment of another Talossan was unacceptable.  Behavior must be considered in context: there's nothing wrong with the word "cute" in many other situations, nor is it unreasonable to compliment someone's physical beauty at times.  However, this behavior was situationally inappropriate: (a) the "compliments" were combined with antagonism, (b) they were directed by an older person to a much younger person with no real existing relationship, and (c) S:reu Tzaracomprada was made aware that his target was very uncomfortable with the behavior.  It is clear in context, then, that S:reu Tzaracomprada was engaging in sexual harassment and

WHEREAS S:reu Tzaracomprada has made it clear that he does not regret his behavior, suggesting that it might happen again, and

WHEREAS it is awkward for the administrators of Wittenberg to act to limit this sexual harassment, considering S:reu Tzaracomprada is the sole vocal legislator for a political party, and this hesitance is understandable but not sustainable, and

WHEREAS it materially harms the Kingdom of Talossa to permit it to become a place where one citizen can sexually harass another with impunity,

THEREFORE be it known that it is the sense of the Ziu that any further misbehavior by S:reu Tzaracomprada must not be tolerated by the administrators of Wittenberg and the Chancery.

Similarly, anyone else acting in such a way must meet firm consequences in a timely manner.  We encourage the administrator(s) of Wittenberg to be more proactive in general in their efforts to curtail personal or sexual harassment by other citizens.  Heated debate is wonderful, sharp words might be necessary, but persistent and unapologetic harassment needs to be addressed.

The Chancery is hereby further encouraged to appoint an official to whom this power is delegated, considering that the Secretary of State might feel conflicted if they are the personally the target of harassment.

No one deserves to be treated this way.

I believe that any proposal should have some teeth including penalties and such. I proposed some ideas in a different thread that might be worth codifying here. I also believe that for Wittiquette to truly have the intended effect, it should also be codified into El Lex.

-Txec R

Quote from: Tric'hard Lenxheir on May 23, 2025, 11:26:02 AMAs written I would vote against this. I think it comes off as a personal attack against an individual. While I agree with the intent I think the "naming and shaming" part should be removed. It comes off as petulant and childish. I also am concerned about the possibility of this being used as a weapon against future individuals. For example Miestra Schiva says Munditens is "cute" and Breneir then states that Munditens privately told him that he was offended (whether it was said or not) at which point Miestra's good name is dragged through the mud until such time as Munditens comes forward and says that no such thing was actually said. By that time the damage could be done. Accusations need to be done personally not through channels and they need to be made in a timely manner.

I am curious why your rebuttal must use Dame Miestra as your example? Why not simply say "Jane" or "Joe" or something similar?

-Txec R

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Quote from: Breneir Tzaracomprada on May 22, 2025, 08:54:47 AM

Quote from: mximo on May 22, 2025, 08:44:39 AMAzul,

Yes I can take the two seats.

Mximo

With thanks to Mximo I assign the Green Party's two seats to him and submit my interest officially to @King Txec to serve as Cunstaval.

I have received advice on the matter and so I seek the advice of Florencians as well. @Duke John, @mximo @Iac Marscheir @Açafat del Val @Zilect Uómbat Firă I welcome your thoughts and advice. If you have anything you would like to express, feel free to PM me or respond here.

-Txec R

I have to agree with S:reu Tresplet. While I wholeheartedly disagree with the owner of X, it is one of our primary methods of communicating with the outside world and I would hate to see us lose that ability.

-Txec R

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Azul Florencians,

It is my sad duty to inform you that Dame Litz Cjantscheir has informed me that she is stepping down as the Cunstaval of Florencia due to personal issues outside of Talossa. Until such time as I have had an opportunity to appoint a new Cunstaval, I shall be acting in my Organic role and fulfilling the responsibilities under the Florencian Constitution. A new Cunstaval will be announced in due course.

-Txec R

In our capacity as King of Talossa and Sovereign, acting in the place of the Cunstaval of Florencia Dame Litz Cjantscheir with whom we have been unable to establish contact for some months, we hereby appoint Iac Marscheir as the Governor of Florencia.

Also, as the timeline for establishing of the Nimlet has expired, and not being well versed in the Constitution of Florencia, we seek guidance as to whether it is permissible under Florencian law to re-establish the timelines under section 4 of the Constitution of Florencia (read: the King does not wish to be sued!).

Done under our hand and seal this twentieth day of May 2025, the forty-sixth year of Independence and of our reign the first.

The Long Fellow has chosen the title of El Coletxüt del Fotz Mesquaic (in English: The Foxmouth Pursuivant). @Baron Alexandreu Davinescu would you please update the upcoming grant to reflect this? Thank you!

-REH

If I may, my brother did use ChatGPT but he also didn't realize it's not the most accurate resource. He was so eager to make use of our national language I don't think he realized he could reach out for translation assistance. I applaud him for his attempt. Talossan is hard for many of us and I wish there was a tool like this to help out!

-Txec R