@Sir Lüc is this ready to take to the CRL?

WHEREAS the office of the Túischac'h is vacant from the dissolution of the Cosa to their election by the next Cosa;

AND WHEREAS certain functions of Government may be blocked in this period if the Cosa doesn't get around to an election quickly enough;

AND WHEREAS elections for the Túischac'h cannot commence until Cosa election results are finalized and seats are assigned, which cannot happen until the Electoral Commission has finished their work:

AND WHEREAS all these blockages can be easily removed;

AND ALSO WHEREAS the Cosa should have the same autonomy over its rules of procedure as the Senäts does:

BE IT ENACTED that:

1. El Lexhatx B.13.6, which currently reads:

Quote13.6. The Commission shall review and certify the unofficial results within 14 days following the Election Deadline, pursuant to the following subsections.

is amended to read:

Quote13.6. The Commission shall review and certify the unofficial results within seven days following the Election Deadline, pursuant to the following subsections.

2.   El Lexhatx B.13.6,3 which currently reads:

Quote13.6.3. If the Commission, upon a majority vote, confirms the existence of an irregularity which affects the outcome of an election item, it shall correct the problem prior to certification as provided in the following subsections.

        13.6.3.1. If the Commission finds that a vote (or votes) has (or have) not been properly counted, it shall direct the Secretary of State to correct the results as necessary. [41]
        13.6.3.2. If the Commission finds that a vote was cast by an ineligible voter, it shall direct the Secretary of State to invalidate such a vote and correct the results as necessary, and notify the Ministry of Justice of any potential civil or criminal violation. [41]
        13.6.3.3. If the Commission should find multiple irregularities which significantly alter the results of an election, it may recommend to the King that the incoming Cosa be dissolved and a new election be called. In such a case, the Commission shall continue to serve as constituted.

shall be amended by adding the following clause:

Quote13.6.3.4. If the Commission, upon a majority vote, believes that there may be a substantial issue under the terms of this section that requires more time to investigate, the Certification Deadline shall be extended to 14 days following the election deadline.

3. El Lexhatx H.1.1.1, which currently reads:

Quote1.1.1. The State Opening shall be organized and conducted by the Túischac'h and Mençei, working in coordination and cooperation with each other. They shall jointly set the place and time for the meeting to take place. The meeting may take place in person, using video conferencing tools, or on Wittenberg.

is amended to read:

Quote1.1.1. The State Opening shall be organized and conducted by the Túischac'h and Mençei, working in coordination and cooperation with each other. They shall jointly set the place and time for the meeting to take place. The meeting may take place in person, using video conferencing tools, or on Wittenberg. While the office of the Túischac'h is vacant, the Secretary of State shall substitute for them in this role.

4. El Lexhatx H.2.1.5.3, which currently reads:

QuoteH.2.1.5.3. The CRL shall consist of the incumbent Mençéi, Túischac'h, and Avocat-Xheneral.

    2.1.5.3.1. The Mençéi, Túischac'h, and Avocat-Xheneral may at any time appoint and dismiss one Senator or one Membreu dal Cosă, to serve as a member of the CRL in their place.

shall be amended by adding the following:

Quote2.1.5.3.2. While the office of the Túischac'h is vacant, the Secretary of State shall substitute for them in this role.

5. A new section H.4.6. shall be added to El Lexhatx:

Quote4.6. The Cosa shall autonomously determine the rules of its proceedings.

Parléu al vint
Vaes mocts sint toct apoartats
Parléu al vint
El vint non üscüda
El vint non put üscüdar

Quote from: Retogenes el Caraunio on <strong>Yesterday</strong> at 01:12:13 AMEl vint
El vint m'apoarta tuns mocts,
la lună m'apoarta tu memoraziun,
ferméu vaes uglhen es sovenençéu
las baiçăs es estrençăs qe tu me zonevás.

Tu isch non pü aicì, v'amor,
zespartevás es me laßevás,
me laßevás soleu in l'auscürità
cair utförevás el lux avetz dtu.

El vint resta viénind,
continua apoartind tuns mocts,
ça sint rais da lux in această auscürità,
qi fada granatim.

Quote from: Baron Alexandreu Davinescu on October 17, 2026, 11:23:33 AMI would be very surprised if any Niueans want to immigrate anywhere... an amazing little island but also amazingly small

About 90% of Niueans live in Auckland, New Zealand.  Lots of waves of immigration due to cyclones and simply because there's not much to do on "the rock". You see their flag flying quite a lot in West Auckland and they're mainstays of local churches and rugby clubs.

In any case, Niue like Tokelau is part of the "Realm of New Zealand" (like Greenland is part of the Kingdom of Denmark)

Quote from: Iac Marscheir on October 15, 2026, 09:49:18 AMI'm not a part of the government, and I'm not suggesting that the government force him into any action beyond what it has already. I'm giving a personal suggestion.

AFAIK, for now the Government's role in this is finished. We gave him a bar to clear to resolve the official boycott, he did so with the worst of grace, but "we count those".

But private citizens have freedom of association (to not associate with someone being a verpa, nor to support his political or cultural initiatives) and freedom of speech (to tell someone he is acting like a verpa), and that includes members of the Government in their private capacity.

Breneir is continuing to center himself and his feelings and to demand explanations for why people might not want to associate with him. Many Talossans have told him over and over again what he is doing wrong, but he either doesn't agree that what he is doing is wrong; or that he has every right to do that thing even if it is wrong; therefore, people have to like him and play with him even without a reason he considers good enough. This pattern of behaviour is familiar enough that I sadly conclude that nothing fundamental has changed, or is likely to - but that's no longer a Government issue.

As far as I am concerned, the issue re: the sexual harassment of @Sir Lüc is now closed, in that Breneir has actually paid a penalty that means something. The "official boycott" has run its course and I will no longer oppose Breneir being considered for Government jobs.

On the other hand, if Breneir keeps saying things like this:

Quote from: Breneir Tzaracomprada on October 14, 2026, 09:49:44 AMI hope that others will consider that shame and name-calling can cause the person you are asking to reflect and change to become defensive especially if they have suffered bullying in the past. It was only with the help of my husband that I decided to move beyond self-defense and explanation even while the attacks continued to apologize a second time and agree to the additional requests that were made.

I know you think you've succeeded but this campaign caused mental harm to me that was not proportional to the offense and I believe that you enjoyed the pain you were inflicting. I have asked God for help with forgiving you.

it will show he hasn't learned anything on the broader question, meaning that he will not rebuild bridges among Talossans who aren't married to him.

Let's run through this bit by bit:

Quoteshame and name-calling can cause the person you are asking to reflect and change to become defensive especially if they have suffered bullying in the past

This is true. Other Talossans have suffered crippling bullying in our lives - even crippling homophobic bullying - and some of us may have coped for a long while by becoming self-righteous verpas unable to admit error, believing ourselves entitled to "dish out" what we received in our own lives. But we got better, or at least tried to.

Quotethis campaign caused mental harm to me that was not proportional to the offense

The initial offense could have been purged with a quick withdrawal/apology to Lüc. Refusing to acknowledge and repair the initial offense meant that others had the choice of (a) impunity; (b) escalation. The path of escalation imposed costs on everyone; yet, it was the correct choice.

Quoteand I believe that you enjoyed the pain you were inflicting.

Quite often, when we lack insight, we attribute our own motivations to others.

QuoteI have asked God for help with forgiving you.

As far as I understand it, haShem prefers we do our own dirty work.

Quote from: xpb on October 12, 2026, 07:19:00 PM

QuoteI'm much more interested in why you think it is preferable for other people to vote publicly.

Ok my answer is that I would encourage people to exercise their freedom of speech to say how they have voted, and if desired, why they voted as they did.

This is not an answer to my question. Public ballot <> "secret ballot but talk about it afterwards".

Quote from: Baron Alexandreu Davinescu on October 12, 2026, 09:05:20 PMOh, you want what I just said signed by the other party leaders?  @Mic'haglh Autófil, O.Be and @Miestră Schivă, UrN-GC , you good with signing onto my previous statement?

Just clarifying. Is this what we are supposed to sign on to? That Breneir

Quote from: Baron Alexandreu Davinescu on October 12, 2026, 06:41:42 PMresign from the legislature for one term, and then take a course we selected on how to avoid avoid harassing others and the importance of consent... we would be prepared to consider this as evidence of an attempt at good character, and you would no longer be considered ineligible for public appointments or positions of trust.

@Mic'haglh Autófil, O.Be will have the final call of "signing on" as party leader, but if this is the gist, then I will recommend that he do so.

The Praisideu is pleased to announce that the honorable Capitán of Fiova for the current Cosa term is @Bråneu Excelsio, UrN .

As provincial Túischac'h (chair of the General Assembly of all Fiovans) I urge him to start a public discussion on how to restore Fiovan glory over the next eight months.

Quote from: Miestră Schivă, UrN-GC on October 12, 2026, 05:46:37 PM1) You mad, bro? You sound mad.

2) Speaking of ultimate motives:

Quote from: Breneir Tzaracomprada on October 11, 2026, 11:38:22 AMpersevering against state-sanctioned harassment so that it does not happen to others

would seem to mean "I continue to participate in Talossa just to spite the people who have tired of my participation". An entirely negative motivation.

3) The government parties have an offer on the table that will lead to the lifting of the "official boycott" (i.e. render you eligible for Government roles).

4) Nothing apart from ceasing to be a nag and a jerk will render you eligible for people liking you (or forgetting all the non-Lüc-related ways you've made yourself stink).

5) Possible outcomes here, ranked in order of preference for everyone, including you:

- you change your ways and become a reformed character and stop making everyone hate you.
- you disappear, voluntarily or involuntarily.
- you hang around making everyone miserable, including yourself.

Quote from: xpb on October 12, 2026, 05:08:25 PM

Quote from: Miestră Schivă, UrN-GC on October 12, 2026, 04:24:43 PM

Quote from: xpb on October 12, 2026, 04:12:12 PMI have always voted in public and I encourage others to do so as well.

Why is that?

Both the first and the second halves of that sentence.

The discrimination in the proposed measure is towards the right of those who state their preference in public at any time that votes are being accepted.  The current system preserves the right for a private vote, but does not force temporal restrictions on freedom of speech for those who wish to state their preferences in public.  Party lists are likely to vote in a similar manner but certainly have no requirement to do so, and to imply that stating a public vote is to diminish free will is inappropriate.

You didn't answer the question.

The first part is less important, since "because I feel like it" is an acceptable answer.

I'm much more interested in why you think it is preferable for other people to vote publicly.

Quote from: Breneir Tzaracomprada on October 12, 2026, 04:36:58 PMI am not going to disappear

Bet

Quote from: xpb on October 12, 2026, 04:12:12 PMI have always voted in public and I encourage others to do so as well.

Why is that?

Both the first and the second halves of that sentence.

As "responsible ministry" for the Royal Society, the Ministry of Culture is happy to endorse these rules and regulations.

Quote from: xpb on October 12, 2026, 08:38:08 AMencouragement should be made everyone to vote in public.

Sorry, I'm not sure I understood this. Are you saying that you think public voting should be the preferred option?

Quote from: Baron Alexandreu Davinescu on October 11, 2026, 08:40:16 PM"Non vala non" isch una cosa unfáþil à aprendar.

"Non vala naxhar pü", lemă dal casă Tzaracompradă :D

Quote from: Baron Alexandreu Davinescu on October 11, 2026, 09:54:03 AMThere's an onramp that it seems to be following, which is weird. I think that legally I am more correct, since the tracts were the basis for the law but not the actual law.

Current law (from 48RZ30) defines the eastern border of LIM Canton as "N Lincoln Memorial Boulevard". It does not go into detail one way or another about the offramp.

Therefore it does not override the previous law, 42RZ37, which defines the border as the 2010 US census tract border, which, by your own definition "appears to follow the offramp".

Therefore, it's the offramp.

But can we have maps made up of both alternatives so we can see how much territory we're actually taking about? I have no desire to create Talossa's equivalent of Liberland.

Quote from: King Robert I, 1994Talossans are having fun as Talossans by doing things which are reasonably similar to what other ("real") countries do, whether for reasons of tourist nostalgia, out of a lust for power, in pursuit of parody, or--yes--as nationbuilding.

Quote from: Baron Alexandreu Davinescu on October 10, 2026, 03:08:37 PMSo when the time comes, I will publicly announce:

QuoteBreneir Tzaracomprada sexually harassed another citizen.  No one deserves to be treated this way -- there is nothing more important than the safety of our citizens.  After being confronted with his behavior, Breneir spent a year refusing to apologize in a real way, but eventually acquiesced.  For most of us, this wasn't enough to begin to treat him like any other citizen.  It was too hard to forget that he'd hurt someone else or that he didn't really seem to care.

However, Breneir has now resigned from the Cosa and has undertaken an educational course.  These are both good first steps to show that he wants to begin to learn and change his behavior.  Everyone deserves to be safe and not feel like being in our public square might make them a possible target.  We hope that, if he decides to remain a citizen, that this is becomes a chance for him to start a new chapter of his time here.

And I will give this statement my full support, should it ever be warranted.

Quote from: Breneir Tzaracomprada on October 10, 2026, 02:15:05 PMIn the meantime, I will continue on as leader of HM's loyal opposition.

Crement is the actual, lawful Leader of the Opposition. Crement and Breneir have spent weeks arguing that Crement is not simply a proxy for Breneir. Breneir just came out and admitted that in fact he calls the political shots.

This is an impressive footbullet.