The time allotted for voting on the Clark has expired.

The Cosă and Senäts have passed the following bills, which are sent to His Majesty @King Txec for Royal Assent:

61RZ01 - The One Word: Plätschisch Act
Agreed to by the Cosă 183-0 (17 abstained), by the Senäts 6-0 (1 abstained)

61RZ02 - The Judicial Retirement Oh Boy Here We Go Again Act
Agreed to by the Cosă 200-0, by the Senäts 7-0



The Cosă and Senäts have disagreed on the following resolution:

61RZ03 - Sense of the Ziu: Climate Emergency
Rejected by the Cosă 42-58 (100 abstained), agreed to by the Senäts 4-2 (1 abstained)



The Cosă passed a Vote of Confidence in the incumbent Government 152-48.

Senator Txoteu Davinescu did not vote.



Sir Lüc da Schir, UrB
Secretary of State

Quote from: Iac Éovard Valadeir on May 18, 2025, 01:54:48 PMwould you mind DMing me your discord username to get this fixed? thank you

I DMed you directly on Discord.

So noted and reflected in the board moderator list.

Quote from: Iac Éovard Valadeir on May 17, 2025, 05:48:15 PM61RZ01-Per
61RZ02-Per
61RZ03-Per

As a sidenote, the database refused to log me in. Im not sure why

Azul Iac, your votes have been entered manually for now, though you didn't specify a choice for the Vote of Confidence so that has been recorded as an abstention until you do so.

Please contact me however you want (Witt DM, email talossachancery at gmail, Discord...) so we can troubleshoot your database login together.

I created accounts myself for all people who applied to the Landing Pier and got OK'd by the Seneschal - that is, all four of them. All were immediately notified through the email address they provided.

The account I created for Carcosa is @carcosa , and the one for the Wong Ming emissary is @lucien .

What Sir Glüc is pointing out is exactly what I meant with my comment on the proposal thread - after poring over provincial statutes while I was building the database, I noticed our constitution exactly mandates three preferences rather than "up to" three.

Sadly my comment was very rushed and unspecific and I also completely forgot to follow up on the changes you made. I am not entirely sure how to proceed except that:

- The points based voting system clearly would hinder other candidates if one could only give three points to their top choice - many editions of TMT20 are a helpful reminder - and so if the system is to stay, casting exactly three choices would be fairest;

- Conversely, strict rules lead to potential disenfranchisment. The database could help ensuring voters do rank three choices via software checks and hint texts, ALTHOUGH in the last election it did allow leaving choices blank; voting publicly on Witt could be a more serious disenfranchisment risk should someone undervote due to missing or misunderstanding the rules for the provincial vote.

I vaguely think the first concern is most important because undervoting would unfairly distort our current voting system. On the other hand, I'm not sure if our elections are going to be so hotly contested that we're going to fight over every ballot and throw out all undervotes. In my mind, we can:

- Allow undervotes but lower the points given to each vote, so your lead choice can only get three points if you fill out your ballot (something like: 1 choice = 1 point; 2 choices, 2 and 1; three choices, 3 and 2 and 1);

- Allow undervotes but switch to a different voting system altogether;

- Not allow undervotes: proclaim the BUS and immediately amend E.2, potentially switching it to instead allowing for curing undervotes in a certain time limit.

So Glüc and I finally met in person over the last weekend, with TCAT scheduled to begin in less than a week...

What better coincidence to record the fourth installment of Centraseiră in person - Talossa's beloved(ish) occasional podcast (mostly) about the Talossan Cycling Association Tour!

This is going to be a fair deal more cycling-centered than episode 3 - there's still ten minutes of general chat if you're down for that at the beginning. If cycling is not your thing though, I do kind of want to record Episode 5 in the (not too distant) future, and cover more Talossan topics.


In this episode:
- Lüc admits to the existence of kompromat involving raw herring;
- Glüc yawns loudly (I cut that out, you're welcome);
- Lüc gets guilt-tripped over taking part in Talossachess;
- Glüc also wants to guilt-trip you all into doing a game night;
- Lüc recounts getting spanked (in boardgames);
- Glüc is happy about the composition of the TMT20 final, less so about the order.

But mostly:
- We discuss our weekend together in the Netherlands up to that point;
- We briefly discuss TMT20 results and other chatroom activities;
- We play our usual Velogames credits guessing game for the upcoming first leg of TCAT 2025, shadowing Giro d'Italia 2025.

We hope you enjoy - and remember signups for TCAT Italy 2025 are open over in the Chatroom!

(Reminder: topic locked - if you want to vote on Witt, use the separate Cosă and Senate voting threads listed above)

Voting on May 2025 Clark (the first of the 61st Cosă) is now open, until the 21st of the month, at 19h30 TST.

You can find the Clark at: https://database.talossa.com/ziu/terms/61/clarks/1 (database) or at https://wiki.talossa.com/images/5/5a/May2025Clark.pdf (pdf)

MCs and Senators can all vote on the new Database using the credentials I sent you earlier: https://database.talossa.com/ziu/clark/vote

If you wish to vote on Wittenberg, MCs can vote here and Senators can vote here. Please do not vote any other way or on any other thread.




Sir Lüc da Schir, UrB
Secretary of State

Senators, you can cast your votes on the First Clark here or on the database: https://database.talossa.com/ziu/clark/vote

You can find the Clark at: https://database.talossa.com/ziu/terms/61/clarks/1 (database) or at https://wiki.talossa.com/images/5/5a/May2025Clark.pdf (pdf)

If you vote here on Witt, do not indicate any conditions which may make it sound like this vote isn't final: you can always change your vote later.

Members of the Cosă, you can cast your votes on the First Clark here or on the database: https://database.talossa.com/ziu/clark/vote

You can find the Clark at: https://database.talossa.com/ziu/terms/61/clarks/1 (database) or at https://wiki.talossa.com/images/5/5a/May2025Clark.pdf (pdf)

If you vote here on Witt, do not indicate any conditions which may make it sound like this vote isn't final: you can always change your vote later.

The Clark has been compiled and is in the process of being published.

Quote from: Munditenens Tresplet on April 29, 2025, 04:18:53 PMAnd I don't think the CRL cannot comment on the Sense of the Ziu language, but I wonder if the sense that electoral ballots cast remain completely secret even from administrators will be understood to work in conjunction with existing language that could conceivably provide those cast ballots to the EC in an unlikely event they are needed.

That is a good point. For the record, currently, there is no way to completely reveal a secret ballot from the frontend; you can either see just the metadata or just the anonymised ballot content, and those are presented separately so that it's impossible to link one and the other.

I suggest to @Miestră Schivă, UrN-GC she could replace that provision with something like:

"that any and all balloting systems should be engineered so to make impossible to reveal a voter's choices even to administrators, if chosen to be secret, except for investigating on potential irregularities as provided by law or directed by the Judiciary"

Also an enthusiastic Per from me.

In the interest of giving the newly-elected presiding officers - @Munditenens Tresplet and @þerxh Sant-Enogat together with A-X @Dr. Pôl dal Nordselvă - as much time as possible to clear bills off the CRL, I will be more flexible than usual with Clarking deadlines and accept bills Clarked as late as the morning of May 1st.

The First Clark may be slightly delayed as a result, to no later than the TST evening of May 1st (so pretty much a delay of at most 12 hours)