Quote from: Françal I. Lux on July 29, 2020, 02:35:47 PM
Is it just a genuine oversight in your opinion? If that's the case, I don't see any reason why it can't be corrected.

I believe that it is. I'm asking because I don't want to be accused of dictatorial practices.

I have just now discovered a series of mistakes in the Treisour (the Big File with all the words in it) regarding verbs that are irregularly stressed in the infinitive (think úçar).

These verbs were marked {vs} in the original 1996 Treisour tag system, a system which was carried over from the physical book, to the Glheþineir, and finally both the old and new versions of the Översteir. Now, there appear to be a couple of verbs that have this tag but apparently lack irregular stress:

ACQUAINT aquuntar
AGREE TO DISAGREE laßar boglhar
APPEND apeindar
ASSUME POWER preindar el pevar
BACK DOWN bäcar daun
BE RIFE, REIGN röinar
BEAT (DEFEAT) vintschar
BEND tirnar
BREAK THRU schpartallojmar
BRING UP, RAISE apoartar upp
BRING, CARRY, WEAR apoartar
BUMP (INTO) bimpar
CRAM (FOR EXAM) crämar
DEFEND zefençar
DROP OUT OF dropar aut da (note however that DISCARD dropar is not tagged {vs})
FILL OUT (FORM) complätsar
FLIRT flirtar
HAIRSTYLE peinar
OPEN åpnar
PUT DOWN (TRANSITIVE) laßar
REMIND remeindar
SCREW UP screuar över (again, SCREW screuar is not tagged {vs})
SING cantar
SWITCH chinxhar
TURN ON (LIGHT, ETC.) åpnar
UNSCREW unscreuar
VETO vetoïçar

It is my understanding that these verbs are oversights and thus should be corrected. It is worth noting that a lot of these verbs either have a vowel with a diacritic (ä, ö, å) or used to have one (former î words). Some of them were even explicitly stressmarked in the original Treisour ("screuar" was spelled scríuar consistently) or in the Scurznia Gramatica which came out around the same time (laßar was spelled láßar on p. 57)

Correcting these entries is a matter of seconds. Though I wanted to make sure no one has any problems with me changing them.

Does anyone object to having them stressmarked (again)?

Quote from: Sir Alexandreu Davinescu on July 29, 2020, 12:35:18 PM
Are you a member of the Assembly, by the way?

Oh God, I'm sorry. I'll remove my vote.

Y'know, I kinda feel like this is just partisanship with extra steps.

Does Epic know he was nominated?

Quote from: Ián S.G. Txaglh on July 29, 2020, 11:35:08 AMnext, the form of talossa needs also not to the most attractive to people with so so many possibilities to be with other people. let's face that, fascination of "playing" or "being" a nationette fades face to face the new world. what was new and funny in 90ies is an old, worn shirt in 2020. yes, there are still lots of youngsters doing micronations (yes, yes, i know), but in their own way mostly. talossan tradition seems to not so appealing in contrast to do things on their own, with their close friends.

So, the appeal of micronations hasnt diminished since the 90s. Instead, people do the exact same thing that lead to the creation of Talossa in the first place: "do[ing] things on their own, with their close friends". In fact, creating a micronation has never been easier, and there are a whole bunch of online meeting places where micronations can interact with each other (often in toxic, cringy ways -- I suppose that's what Ben meant by "bug nation"). What's stopping us from doing more publicity for ourselves? Sealand continues to be wellknown even outside the micronational community, and they have waaaaaaaaaaay less to offer than us.

Quotei am also conlanger since ages and i still move around young conlangers, but their motivations and work differs from mine/people of my generation a lot and in many aspects.

As a young (I guess) conlanger myself, I'd love to know what exactly you mean by that.
EDIT: On a different note, could I interest you in joining SIGN?

Quotetalossa never really turned into multigeneration ship, we should not blame ourselves. culture changes and soon we will turn into a museum exhibit.

But why does it have to be like this? If culture can change, why can't we? (that's a trick question, we do change -- the early 2010s are as ancient as the 1980s)

Quote from: Miestră Schivă, UrN
a respected non-political Talossan

Good luck with that, I suppose.

Talossan education system when?

Quote from: Françal I. Lux on July 20, 2020, 04:21:04 PM
Azul! I'm interested in joining the committee. I've spent the past several years studying linguistics at university and I hope I can make use of it here. I hope you're accepting new members!

I vote yes, and since Miestră added you to the SIGN message list thing, I'll take that as a yes vote from her as well. Welcome aboard!

This reminds me that we'll have to update the Talossan text on the ballot (not that anyone cares it anyway, but just for completeness's sake). Maybe next time.

First, it sucks that I have to vote publicly. I wouldve prefered a secret ballot, but oh well.

Second, I vote for Cresti Nouacastra-Läxhirescu.

I havent gotten my ballot yet. What's going on?

Quote from: Lüc on July 14, 2020, 12:42:14 PM
So... I'm back working on l'Översteir, I guess.

...is that you? How have you been?

I'm utterly blindsided by this announcement... :-(

It's taken me ten minutes to figure out what to say but like, I hope you and your family manage to get out of this crisis okay.

Quote from: Ián S.G. Txaglh on May 22, 2020, 09:52:25 AM
i would go the "easiest" way devising the gender-neutral animate pronouns from existing gender ones.

sg. o / a > u; i and e are taken in certain way. i also avoid unnecessary similarities to masculine/feminine versions so, e.g. pl. ullu.

The problem with that one is that "o" is already pronounced [­u], so "u" is taken. My idea would be to have something like:

subject singular: e
subject plural: es
object: le, l'
prepositional: le

All other pronominal forms (object/prepositional plural, possessives) are already gender-neutral.

Using E as the gender-neutral vowel would theoretically allow us to use -e endings with gender-marked adjectives (ben, bună, bune), though in those circumstances the gender-neutral ending would sound identical to the feminine one (both schwa)... I may need to think about this more.

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we have to accept that even in a created language such as talossan, these are created newly inside the paradigm. it is an important social construct and there is no shame that it "looks" created. it is a language revolt, in fact, cos language it-self, along with the social majority does not meet the necessity to deal with situations involving gender neutrality on a daily basis.

Given the Ladintsch population of approximately 10 at the very most, I doubt that this is much of an issue.

Quote from: Miestrâ Schiva, UrN on May 21, 2020, 10:15:23 PM
The only Romance language I can think of that has a neuter gender is Romanian. Is their pronoun system a possible source of innovations? Looking at it briefly, it looks like Romanian neuter nouns take masculine singular pronouns and feminine plural pronouns. Can we do that? Or the other way around?

Romanian's neuter gender is a relic of Latin's neuter gender, restricted to inanimate objects. People still have to follow the binary, and there are no gender-neutral third person pronouns either. Those are some unpleasant connotations that I'd really like to avoid, perhaps by coining new pronouns altogether...